Time for the 10s.

GSS138 · 08-18-2014, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

Yup.... most cars are no good for drag racing if you show up slammed on 19s. The 370z happens to be one of the worst to try that with. Coincidentally, 370z owners are generally not the type willing to show up any other way. Hence our really sad 1/4 mile registry for the boosted cars.

This made me laugh and quoted for truth. Tire, not shiny wheels, win drag races.

If you want shiny wheel and win drag race, you buy so much GTR.

BOLIO 671 · 08-20-2014, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk

^^ Are you sure that isnt a 26 x 6? I cannot find a 26 x 5 x 18 MT SR anywhere, not even the MT website.

Yes my bad....my first post was a typo....they are 26 X 6....however they are able to be properly mounted on a 4.5 to 5.5 inch wide rim which makes the spare rims perfect for them

BOLIO 671 · 08-20-2014, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk

18s will give you better grip.

wheel diameter does not effect surface area on the ground, that is tire diameter.

smaller wheels give you more sidewall, and more sidewall gives you more grip. This is because it allows the tire more compliance. More sidewall also increases drivetrain cushioning, softening the blow to things like your axles.

The advantage 19" has over 18" is less/stiffer sidewalls and less compliance. This is ideal for responsive handling, but the opposite of what is ideal for drag racing. 19" is going to hook up worse and be more likely to break your axles... but it will feel more sporty and confident in the turns.

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Originally Posted by phunk

Most drag cars built from actual cars that use anywhere near typical tire diameters use 15" wheels for drag racing.

Rep Points added!!!

Great knowledge sharing here brother....Hence the reason why phunk has gone the route of doing the rear brake set up in order to run the 28" slick on the 15" rim....

BOLIO 671 · 08-20-2014, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

i know all this from growing up with a father in drag racing. sadly i just need to enjoy the Z as is and go build a full out drag car lol

that seems to be the move to make i feel.

Very true man...I have gone back and forth on this....and building a Z as a drag car is expensive as hell....I've pretty much become content with what the car can do on the 1/4 mile...its not the fastest car out there that's gonna break records, but its quick enough and can hold its own....

Overall the Z's a nice car...quick....great all around. ..but its not a great platform for a drag car IMHO......unless ur completely sponsored or got tons of money to splurge....or willing to do some serious mods like phunk....Dont get me wrong...phunk is doing a great thing with lots for others to learn from....but I just cant see myself doing all of that to my Nismo....My hats off to phunk....

Its cheaper to build another car as a strict drag car..but for a daily driver/head turner/road car for those spirited driving moments, the Z does it for me...the guys out here think I'm nuts to drag my Z and think I'm abusing it...to a lot of guys out here from where I'm from a Z is a car that you would floss....Although there's quite a few of us that own 370's out here u would only see 2 or 3 of us 370Z owners actually racing our cars at the drag strip.....you have a better chance of finding a big Z34 group out here at a Fatlace show ...Lol

phunk · 08-20-2014, 06:49 PM

I can understand your position as well.

I have no interest at all in turning my Z into a drag car.

However, I am willing to spend a hour or two and $1000 into parts to make it so when I do wish to occasionally drag race my car, I can actually see what it is capable of. Not only for my own satisfaction... but now when people ask what the car can do in the 1/4, I will be able to give them a straight forward answer. No more pulling out the excuse list and making them roll their eyes at me.

I am not sure why you guys consider wheels and tires to be serious modifications. It is actually quite the norm for drag racing. If you spend a day at the track, you will see far more cars on tires like my 28's, than you will on 19" volks or works LOL

FPenvy · 08-21-2014, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk

I can understand your position as well.

I have no interest at all in turning my Z into a drag car.

However, I am willing to spend a hour or two and $1000 into parts to make it so when I do wish to occasionally drag race my car, I can actually see what it is capable of. Not only for my own satisfaction... but now when people ask what the car can do in the 1/4, I will be able to give them a straight forward answer. No more pulling out the excuse list and making them roll their eyes at me.

I am not sure why you guys consider wheels and tires to be serious modifications. It is actually quite the norm for drag racing. If you spend a day at the track, you will see far more cars on tires like my 28's, than you will on 19" volks or works LOL

for me i am more interested in 18s that clear the akebonos with DRs or my 19 rays with DRs. personally i am the same with not wanting my Z as a drag only purpose car. i just wanna drive to the track, swap wheels if i have to, put the others back on, and go home. no grinding calipers or modding parts. just put on the stickies and run it lol

i have been looking at wrecked 370s lately thinking about maybe taking one, stripping it down, shaving all weight, and starting with bare bones and a engine to make a drag only car lol

phunk · 08-21-2014, 08:43 AM

I guess it just depends on how bad you want it to go well! The car is never going to leave to its potential on 19s. 18s are better, but still not that great and many wheels will already require caliper modification. But once you see how minor the caliper modification is you will get over it quickly... it takes only a few minutes per side and its done and its like it never happened and you only have to do it the one time.

If you want to build a dedicated drag car, I would highly recommend avoiding a 370z LOL.

FPenvy · 08-21-2014, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk

I guess it just depends on how bad you want it to go well! The car is never going to leave to its potential on 19s. 18s are better, but still not that great and many wheels will already require caliper modification. But once you see how minor the caliper modification is you will get over it quickly... it takes only a few minutes per side and its done and its like it never happened and you only have to do it the one time.

If you want to build a dedicated drag car, I would highly recommend avoiding a 370z LOL.

ughhhhh it would be a struggle to come to terms with shaving my calipers even though no one would ever see it....i would know lol

but i agree 18s would be so much better than 19s its just fact.

ooooo cmon a full out 370 drag car? why not? lol

phunk · 08-21-2014, 08:46 AM

I finally took my Z out for a test drive on the 15s with 28s last night. All of you guys who cannot stand the idea... if you felt what its like to dead hook first gear with 600rwhp you would change your tune quickly. I am very impressed with how well the car still handles on these tires with 22psi in them for the street. The car actually rides really nice with these too. I am very happy. I would take them off before doing any extreme high speed highway pulls... but for spirited driving under 80mph around town they feel just fine and man is it such a good feeling to floor it and not spin.

phunk · 08-21-2014, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

ughhhhh it would be a struggle to come to terms with shaving my calipers even though no one would ever see it....i would know lol

but i agree 18s would be so much better than 19s its just fact.

ooooo cmon a full out 370 drag car? why not? lol

If it really kills you to grind them down, send them out to Mike for a fresh powdercoating afterwords... then they will be better than new!

FPenvy · 08-21-2014, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk

If it really kills you to grind them down, send them out to Mike for a fresh powdercoating afterwords... then they will be better than new!

why would you tell me this

phunk you're the damn devil.......but i like it lol this will have to be considered.

phunk · 08-21-2014, 09:01 AM

im just trying to get you to crack because youre being difficult about it! and i dont really like being the only guy with grinded calipers!

FPenvy · 08-21-2014, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk

im just trying to get you to crack because youre being difficult about it! and i dont really like being the only guy with grinded calipers!

well if youre the only one then theres a reason lol and im a sucker for peer pressure dammit lol

go look back in the OG thread when i got ganged up on by 4 of them about tires lol

BOLIO 671 · 08-21-2014, 09:19 PM

phunk I totally get u and why ur doing what ur doing.....This forum and the drag guys will benefit and learn a lot from the stuff ur doing.....I guess I would probably do the same if I was on a F.I. set up so I could actually see the full potential of the Z....

Your absolutely right about the whole tire thing...Surprising how not much people don't get it..but it's drag racing 101....U gotta have the right foot wear/foot work (tires, rims, suspension) in order to put that power to the ground.....Considering ur last post of doing a test run with the 28's, I'm stoked to see what ur set up will do in the 1/4 mile....

Z eliminator · 08-22-2014, 09:08 AM

If you have the sport package, just get 18 x 10.5 + 12 offset rims I have volk t-37s and M/T 305 35 18 drag radials fit perfectly. You can put the 26 X18 X 6 M/T sports man tire on the spare tire rims on the front, 36 lbs tire and rim vs 53 for the stock tire and rim.

The car goes perfectly straight down the track with 21 to 23 lbs of air in the back, and 48 to 50 lbs in the fronts.
All motor with bolt ons getting 1.80, 60 ft. times .

Z

08-20-2014, 06:49 PM	#110 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	I can understand your position as well. I have no interest at all in turning my Z into a drag car. However, I am willing to spend a hour or two and $1000 into parts to make it so when I do wish to occasionally drag race my car, I can actually see what it is capable of. Not only for my own satisfaction... but now when people ask what the car can do in the 1/4, I will be able to give them a straight forward answer. No more pulling out the excuse list and making them roll their eyes at me. I am not sure why you guys consider wheels and tires to be serious modifications. It is actually quite the norm for drag racing. If you spend a day at the track, you will see far more cars on tires like my 28's, than you will on 19" volks or works LOL BOLIO 671 and Rid3_FaM0uS like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

08-21-2014, 08:43 AM	#112 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	I guess it just depends on how bad you want it to go well! The car is never going to leave to its potential on 19s. 18s are better, but still not that great and many wheels will already require caliper modification. But once you see how minor the caliper modification is you will get over it quickly... it takes only a few minutes per side and its done and its like it never happened and you only have to do it the one time. If you want to build a dedicated drag car, I would highly recommend avoiding a 370z LOL. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

08-21-2014, 08:46 AM	#114 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	I finally took my Z out for a test drive on the 15s with 28s last night. All of you guys who cannot stand the idea... if you felt what its like to dead hook first gear with 600rwhp you would change your tune quickly. I am very impressed with how well the car still handles on these tires with 22psi in them for the street. The car actually rides really nice with these too. I am very happy. I would take them off before doing any extreme high speed highway pulls... but for spirited driving under 80mph around town they feel just fine and man is it such a good feeling to floor it and not spin. FPenvy and Rid3_FaM0uS like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

08-21-2014, 09:01 AM	#117 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	im just trying to get you to crack because youre being difficult about it! and i dont really like being the only guy with grinded calipers! Arrvaxx likes this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

08-21-2014, 09:19 PM	#119 (permalink)
BOLIO 671 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: GUAHAN Posts: 1,198 Drives: To & From then Back Rep Power: 3399	phunk I totally get u and why ur doing what ur doing.....This forum and the drag guys will benefit and learn a lot from the stuff ur doing.....I guess I would probably do the same if I was on a F.I. set up so I could actually see the full potential of the Z.... Your absolutely right about the whole tire thing...Surprising how not much people don't get it..but it's drag racing 101....U gotta have the right foot wear/foot work (tires, rims, suspension) in order to put that power to the ground.....Considering ur last post of doing a test run with the 28's, I'm stoked to see what ur set up will do in the 1/4 mile.... __________________ 2013 Nismo Z34 / FI TT #091 / IG: @lilzilla_z34

08-22-2014, 09:08 AM	#120 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,659 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 19	If you have the sport package, just get 18 x 10.5 + 12 offset rims I have volk t-37s and M/T 305 35 18 drag radials fit perfectly. You can put the 26 X18 X 6 M/T sports man tire on the spare tire rims on the front, 36 lbs tire and rim vs 53 for the stock tire and rim. The car goes perfectly straight down the track with 21 to 23 lbs of air in the back, and 48 to 50 lbs in the fronts. All motor with bolt ons getting 1.80, 60 ft. times . Z __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015. Last edited by Z eliminator; 08-22-2014 at 09:11 AM.

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