clutch slipping during track days

cossie1600

Not sure why my clutch is slipping at 29K miles, but my car definitely can't go from 2nd to 3rd quickly without a long slip or really slowing the shift down. It would even do it from 3rd to 4th from time to time. Has anyone run into this problem yet? What are good reliable clutches at stock power?

THanks

ResIpsa

Can you give a more detailed explanation of exactly what you are perceiving?

29K seems really early for a clutch. A much more common problem is with boiling clutch fluid/slave cylinder failure/master cylinder failure (I know that I have had all 3 fail at the track).

I also know each time I brought my car into the dealer they tried to sell me a new clutch. I had to insist that I knew my clutch was fine. I can only imagine how many clutches Nissan/Infiniti have sold after misdiagnosing burnt up clutch fluid.

Can you stall your car starting in 3rd gear? That's a fairly accepted test of a clutch.

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RonRizz

Don't be too alarmed...my dealer was recently changing my short block and told me my clutch and flywheel should be replaced.... I'm at 26k, and have never been to track. I baby the car for the most part. I haven't had issues with it yet, but I am expecting to now. I have never changed a stock clutch so soon before.

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RonRizz

Please explain the stall in third gear for me. I've not heard that one before, and would like to try it.

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ResIpsa

The idea is if your clutch is still good the car should stall when trying to start in 3rd. If your clutch is bad and slipping it will not stall.

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GSS138

If you do need a new clutch there are lots of options. If you are going to replace it you may as well do a fly wheel as well.

I have heard a lot of good things about the Jim Wolf Technologies Combo.

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martin82

most likely you do not need a new clutch, but later if you do, call Joe at Zspeed and he will hook you up!!!!
I had the csc fail on me TWICE, upgraded to Zspeed hd csc and a new oem master.

clintfocus

Odd its slipping so early. I'm at 70k with a lot of tracking and no slippage

BGTV8

Do we have a terminology problem here. It sounds to me like the clutch is not dis-engaging drive when the clutch pedal is fully depressed which is what makes the shift "slow and/or difficult".

A slipping clutch says to me that engine revs rise and speed does not rise in proportion so the clutch is not effectively engaging drive as the friction surface on the drive plate is worn excessively.

A dodgy CSC on the other hand will not disengage the clutch making shifts difficult and/or slow. This can be variable if the fluid becomes excessively hot - and the pedal function returns when it cools.

Can the OP confirm the symptom more clearly because if the issue is having to spend a lot of time with clutch pedal fully depressed, that sounds like a CSC or fluid issue rather than a slipping clutch.

Before changing the CSC, simply replace the clutch fluid as step 1.

Red__Zed

Sounds like your CSC, which is more or less an inevitable replacement on the Z.

ValidusVentus

Same here, knock on wood.

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clintfocus

im going to Buttonwillow next weekend, if my clutch slips, i know i spoke too soon LOL.

cossie1600

Basically if I come off any slow corner in 2nd gear. If I try to shift quickly into 3rd, it's almost a given that the RPM will just stay in the 7000RPM. It would eventually catch and slip into gear. It would do that from time to time going into 4th too.

CSC or clutch, both sound bad as they both require transmission removal. I guess at least I will fix the stupid bearings that are noisy

synolimit

Sounds like it. My diff was a pita on my garage floor. I don't even want to think about the tranny.

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ResIpsa

Sounds like a fluid/csc/cmc issue. What is happening is you are running to 7000 in 2nd gear and when you try to shift (depress the pedal) your clutch is not disengaging thus your rpm's are staying as if you were still in 2nd (because you are still in second).

The good news is that your clutch is probably fine and slave cylinders and master cylinders are covered under warranty! Just don't let them bully you into purchasing a clutch (b/c not covered under warranty) or god forbid using GT-R clutch fluid at $150 per bottle (they tried that on me and I really had almost yell at the service tech).

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