going square how did you like it?

synolimit · 07-11-2014, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by newtonova822

Thanks for the info on 18x 10 much appreciated.

But out of my price range by 2x at least.

Do people sell race wheels used? If so where is a good site?
I might be able to go to 2k but don't want to go over that yet.

Entry level race rims? Saw advan, forgesta and a couple others at $1k+ a rim. I'm a beginner trying to get used to a decent setup..

lol and I work for county gov. I just took a 2014 sport put ebc red, Z1 ss lines, 34 row oil cooler, hotchkiss sways, front and rear nismo brace and I am maxed but I see the use for the 18s.
How about this what is in 1.5k range for set of four for a couple track days a year and swap for snow tires? is enkei race good enough?

the feel of 9.5 vs 10s??

Right now my turn in feels like the body in the rear is slipping over the suspension by 2-3 inches on a spirited turn. Like loosing grip in back end but I dont think that is it. very funny greasy feel in rear.

i wanted to sell mine for a more sqaure but having second thoughts. like wstar said there is no perfect setup so i can sell these and get new RPF1's in the same wheel but all i end up doing is buying different spacers and moving them to the rear and i lose front end weight and move it to the rear so...

my wheels were like $1300 and for a RPF1 how you can beat that??!! you can get them here and there for $1000-1200 easy.

synolimit · 07-11-2014, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bkleeman

We run Enkei RPF1 18x10.5 square lowered with no rub - we do run spacers tho. Tires are Pirelli 305s. PM me - I can do a set of these new in 18x10.5 shipped for WAY less than 2K.

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spacers???? my 18x10.5 +15 rpf1 is perfect in the back. what spacer do you need back there? also 18x10.5 +15 for the front is crazy offset anyways. am i missing something or do you have a different wheel? i only see 1 18x10.5 from enkie.

if i did a 10.5+15 on the front (again i only see 1 rpf1 in 18x10.5) where im flush now, itd be like putting a 23mm spacer on.

bkleeman · 07-11-2014, 10:36 AM

Same wheel front and back. We're only using spacers on one end, but I dont recall which - I'm 600 miles away from the car at the moment so I can't go look. Our rules allow for a 10.5 wheel up front and an 11 in the rear but Enkei doesn't make an 11 and that's the only offset for a 10.5 so that's what we went with. We go through a LOT of wheels so I wasn't going to switch over to a more expensive wheel just to get an 11.

The Pirellis we use have a rather tall sidewall and we can adjust ride height so we have a lot that we can play with regarding fit.

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Originally Posted by synolimit

spacers???? my 18x10.5 +15 rpf1 is perfect in the back. what spacer do you need back there? also 18x10.5 +15 for the front is crazy offset anyways. am i missing something or do you have a different wheel? i only see 1 18x10.5 from enkie.

if i did a 10.5+15 on the front (again i only see 1 rpf1 in 18x10.5) where im flush now, itd be like putting a 23mm spacer on.

FlyByGTI · 07-11-2014, 10:42 AM

Hmm interesting. I was considering keeping on the stock sport 19's and running staggered, but a square setup would be cool. Problem is I feel like I'd want to lower the car if I started running 18's... slippery slope from that point on...

Hotrodz · 07-11-2014, 02:18 PM

The car will be lower do to the smaller diameter size of the 18s!

synolimit · 07-11-2014, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bkleeman

Same wheel front and back. We're only using spacers on one end, but I dont recall which - I'm 600 miles away from the car at the moment so I can't go look. Our rules allow for a 10.5 wheel up front and an 11 in the rear but Enkei doesn't make an 11 and that's the only offset for a 10.5 so that's what we went with. We go through a LOT of wheels so I wasn't going to switch over to a more expensive wheel just to get an 11.

The Pirellis we use have a rather tall sidewall and we can adjust ride height so we have a lot that we can play with regarding fit.

Wow. Well if you're 100% ill take your word. But that wheels like a 51mm spacer on the oem. I'm 23mm smaller and 1.2" lower with -1.5 camber and poke 1/8". Maybe you run -4 camber?

clintfocus · 07-11-2014, 06:50 PM

with a 275/35/18 up front, 18x10.5 et23 works with no issues. 285/35/18 and 295/35/18 on 18x10.5 up front work with et28 or et30 with -3 camber or more. just a FYI for everyone, and this info is all under track conditions with full suspension compression.

martin82 · 07-12-2014, 02:03 PM

Best fitment? Enkei nt03 18x10.5+30 and run a rear spacer 15-20mm in rear and you can rotate all around anytime. I run 285/35/18 all around and have ran 295/35/18 square

martin82 · 07-12-2014, 02:03 PM

U will be surprised how cheap i can get enkei got a hood up!

bkleeman · 07-12-2014, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Wow. Well if you're 100% ill take your word. But that wheels like a 51mm spacer on the oem. I'm 23mm smaller and 1.2" lower with -1.5 camber and poke 1/8". Maybe you run -4 camber?

I dug through my pics...spacers on the rear, nothing up front. -3.0 to -3.5 camber on the front, -1.5 to -1.8 on the rear. Tires are 305/660 front, 305/680 rear.

synolimit · 07-13-2014, 01:54 AM

-3.5 is pretty extreme. Figures now how it might work.

Wow. Two cooler lines and they still get hot! Surprised to see oem type coils.

clintfocus · 07-13-2014, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

-3.5 is pretty extreme. Figures now how it might work.

Wow. Two cooler lines and they still get hot! Surprised to see oem type coils.

-3.5 isn't extreme for track use. I'm maxed at -3.2 right now and my pyrometer temps show u could benefit from a tad more negative up front. But I need SPL arms to achieve that.

wstar · 07-13-2014, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bkleeman

I dug through my pics...spacers on the rear, nothing up front. -3.0 to -3.5 camber on the front, -1.5 to -1.8 on the rear. Tires are 305/660 front, 305/680 rear.

Off-topic divergence here, but any chance you guys will be selling whatever you made for hooking up ducting to the front rotors? I have the Stillen ones now, but more airflow would be nice and I suck at fabricating these kinds of things

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Surprised to see oem type coils.

I suspect this is due to series rules.

synolimit · 07-13-2014, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar

Off-topic divergence here, but any chance you guys will be selling whatever you made for hooking up ducting to the front rotors? I have the Stillen ones now, but more airflow would be nice and I suck at fabricating these kinds of things

I suspect this is due to series rules.

O come on. You can do it. What I did was very easy! The OEM dust shield has a square whole in it. I held up my 2" pipe around it and marked a round hole and cut it out with a grinding bit. It your stillen doesn't have a hole then just get a 2" hole saw bit and punch through it. Then I cut some strips of metal and bent them 90*. Held one end to the pipe and used a self taping screw to hold it. The other side got screwed to the dust shield. I think I used 3 "brackets" on each side. Won't done just paint it us so it won't rust.

wstar · 07-14-2014, 02:53 AM

^ I meant I have the Stillen brake duct kit already, which has a single 2-inch outlet on the hub adapter. Even then not all of the pipe's diameter makes it to the inside part of the rotor. It seems tricky to fit more airflow into there; there's certainly not room to cut another hole on Stillen's plate. Certainly 2x2" sounds easier than 1x3", though. Part of their trick could also be that they're using a larger rotor hat than I am, by the looks of it, which would allow more room for outlets to get airflow to the inner edge of the rotor.

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clintfocus Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: los angeles Age: 39 Posts: 933 Drives: 370z, EK Civic, F150 Rep Power: 16	with a 275/35/18 up front, 18x10.5 et23 works with no issues. 285/35/18 and 295/35/18 on 18x10.5 up front work with et28 or et30 with -3 camber or more. just a FYI for everyone, and this info is all under track conditions with full suspension compression. DEpointfive0 likes this. Last edited by clintfocus; 07-11-2014 at 06:55 PM.

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martin82 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: los angeles Posts: 2,636 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 20	Best fitment? Enkei nt03 18x10.5+30 and run a rear spacer 15-20mm in rear and you can rotate all around anytime. I run 285/35/18 all around and have ran 295/35/18 square Rangerz likes this.

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martin82 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: los angeles Posts: 2,636 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 20	U will be surprised how cheap i can get enkei got a hood up! DEpointfive0 and Rangerz like this.

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synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	-3.5 is pretty extreme. Figures now how it might work. Wow. Two cooler lines and they still get hot! Surprised to see oem type coils. __________________ 13 370z-

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FlyByGTI Base Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 231 Drives: 09 370z Sport Rep Power: 11	Hmm interesting. I was considering keeping on the stock sport 19's and running staggered, but a square setup would be cool. Problem is I feel like I'd want to lower the car if I started running 18's... slippery slope from that point on...

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wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3595	^ I meant I have the Stillen brake duct kit already, which has a single 2-inch outlet on the hub adapter. Even then not all of the pipe's diameter makes it to the inside part of the rotor. It seems tricky to fit more airflow into there; there's certainly not room to cut another hole on Stillen's plate. Certainly 2x2" sounds easier than 1x3", though. Part of their trick could also be that they're using a larger rotor hat than I am, by the looks of it, which would allow more room for outlets to get airflow to the inner edge of the rotor. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

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