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0101 12-17-2013 07:49 AM

HPDE Track Prep -- What's needed?
 
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but maybe there's newer info out since the old threads. I'm in the purchase process and have raced my prior cars, but am a neewb with the 370.

If you want to take a 370Z Sport and do a lot of HPDE events, what are the necessary preperations to the Z?

I'm assuming:
- The biggest oil cooler they make would be smart.
- Redline WaterWetter to bring down the temp another 5 degrees or so?
- Racing brake fluid
- Racing brake pads


What elese?
Is the stock suspension okay for HPDE, or do most people replace it?

m4a1mustang 12-17-2013 07:52 AM

Stock suspension is fine. It's almost always better to start with the stock suspension before you start making changes.

You're right about the brake pads, fluid, and oil cooler.

wstar 12-17-2013 08:00 AM

I would just go after brake cooling/reliability and oil cooling for your first weekend with the Z, that will get you going. The stock sport suspension isn't horrible, so you might want to feel out what your next priorities are personally on-track. For me, I think a stiffer front swaybar (Hotchkis) was more critical than coilover upgrades, given the Sport suspension as a starting point.

On brakes: front ducting is really helpful on this car, and Stillen sells a kit with hub flanges and bumper intake flanges for our car. Also, staggering the pad bite (a slightly less-grabby pad in the rear than the front - most race pads have some options there...) helps avoid some ABS controller issues ("ice-mode") when track driving on the stock calipers.

Ice mode is basically that our rear Sport brakes are a little bit oversized on pressure / piston diameter from the factory, and if 1-2 rear wheels manage to lock up first in a braking zone while the fronts are still rolling (due to loss of weight over the rear - esp on bumpy tracks), the ABS controller thinks the car is on patchy ice or something and reduces your available pressure to all 4 wheels. The pedal feels hard, but the braking force just isn't there anymore. Can be corrected by partially lifting and re-applying the brake pedal as soon as you feel it happening.

DR_ 12-17-2013 09:05 AM

Replace the diff fluid. I prefer Redline 75w90.

osbornsm 12-17-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0101 (Post 2613255)
I'm sure this has been discussed before...

You are correct!!

Now, if you have any questions AFTER reading my thread, then you can post here. :p

synolimit 12-17-2013 12:40 PM

I've said it before, have to say it again. You'll cook the diff fluid. Just driving it reaches 194*. Doesn't matter what you run. I recommend a diff cooler also if you have a sport model. I wouldn't want the OEM LSD to work and not work when you least expect it. Like ice mode it can scare the **** out of you. But it does depend on the tracks layout and your ability to drive fast. If you don't buy one I'd replace the fluid ASAP after the event since it will be cooked. You wouldn't drive on engine oil if it saw 300 degrees or so, so why do it with diff fluid.

G37sHKS 12-17-2013 01:03 PM

I suggest a good power steering fluid too.

JWillis72 12-18-2013 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2613723)
I've said it before, have to say it again. You'll cook the diff fluid. Just driving it reaches 194*. Doesn't matter what you run. I recommend a diff cooler also if you have a sport model. I wouldn't want the OEM LSD to work and not work when you least expect it. Like ice mode it can scare the **** out of you. But it does depend on the tracks layout and your ability to drive fast. If you don't buy one I'd replace the fluid ASAP after the event since it will be cooked. You wouldn't drive on engine oil if it saw 300 degrees or so, so why do it with diff fluid.

What diff cooler are you running?

chops 12-18-2013 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 2613757)
I suggest a good power steering fluid too.

same, i boiled my power steering fluid with some canyon runs when i used to be stupid. upgraded to a larger one (3-4inches longer than stock) and its helped alot surprisingly. added redline d6 while i was at it too

synolimit 12-18-2013 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 2615959)
What diff cooler are you running?

Made my own. Just find a pump you want to run and cooler and the fittings and lines are easy to find and do. -8 AN will do.


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