DRAG WHEEL/Tire setups

andre12031948

I stand by my statement. A 600 h.p. car with EVEN JUST SOME traction prep. doing 1.8's/1.9's = sucks......

Chuck33079

Andre, it's lot harder to launch a 500whp car than a 280whp car on street tires.

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andre12031948

So help ME with my pumpkin problem !!!!????? I'm at a Nissan dealer now....

andre12031948

I don't think I EVER talked about street tires??? WEIRD?????

Chuck33079

So the stock cars you're saying are doing 1.8-1.9s as a comparison are not on street tires?

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phunk

I am not saying you CANT... I am only saying you cant on 18-19" drag radials with this car... CURRENTLY. I am working towards a fix for that.

But yes, with a dedicated drag setup, proper alignment and slicks... ya for sure these cars can hook up great. Its just that its not what people in this community want. They want a full street car to hookup something closer to like what a vette or a viper can do on street tires. They can do it because of their different suspension profiles that do not camber 30 degrees when you try and launch!

If we can get the typical 60's down to 1.7-1.8 on normal 18" drag radials... it will be epic for the 370z scene because all of a sudden we will start seeing people get more excited about drag racing. As it stands, its really damn frustrating to even bother with how poor these cars hook up without full slicks. We need solutions that dont involve changing the rear brakes and putting on 15-16" wheels... and suddenly we will see a greater number of Z owners taking their cars to the track.

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andre12031948

Those yes, most however might just have Nitto or M/T street radials(proper name) but they are really street/drag......

Of course if you use BIG wheels & BIG tires but skinny/little rubber, road driving radials, they would hopp (sp) around & give you 2.2's + 60'.

I don't even think, doesn't even come to my mind, drag racing & doing that

Those tire/wheel combo have their place/job & they do it well but not in drag racing, which is what we're talking about????

andre12031948

Now if I fix my pumpkin problem, next spring I'll get very street friendly Nitto/M/T street/drag radial & drive to the track, and heat them up before take off. No tires to change at track.

Is that so hard????? If it is then why bother with much H.P. for drag racing without being able to give it gas at the start?????

phunk

Not everyone is very concerned with drag racing from a stop... its never been a very big deal to me. For 10 years I have been driving boosted Z's that cannot hook up until 3rd gear (even then 3rd gear is usually iffy). It never really was a big deal to me until recently its been getting on my nerves. I am personally more of a go fast for a long time person... so I have always been more concerned with nice brakes and high speed stability than I was concerned with the first 60' of a drag race. Most boosted Z's are setup similar... street cars that are setup closer to a road race car only with more power than they could realistically road race with.

The car is the problem. Its the design of the IRS. Guys with Vettes and Vipers and what not can run around with 600rwhp, on just decent sticky street tires, and still get OK traction. The Z is a whole different story. Z owners build up to that generally totally reasonable amount of power for the street like 550-600, and only find out when they get there that the Z suspension is NOT up to the task without dedicated slicks. Most Z owners just arent into that.

A 600rwhp car shouldnt need full slicks to not roast the tires at 60 or even 80mph. Not many guys are expecting that when they start building their Z. I wouldnt tell them to get slicks because of it... because that is not what they wanted to build.

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Chuck33079

It's funny how having a lot of power warps your definition of "generally totally reasonable".

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andre12031948

We should do & not do whatever we want with our cars. If the subject of drag racing comes up, you & others should not jump out of your seats because you can't do it, or don't want to. Whatever....

I'm fine with that. 100% fine. Just don't say others can't do it, because with a little effort they can...... You can't then don't.... I've got nothing more.....

phunk

Probably too much exposure to 1000-1800hp Vipers or something. 500-600 gets old real fast I am telling ya! Thats why its so frustrating that the Z cannot hook that power up on street tires.

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andre12031948

I'm at a Nissan dealer trying & there was some issue. Maybe I misunderstood. Anyway, I thought your post was very good. Didn't I say that?// Now I got to go!!!!!! sorry, glad to talk later.

Chuck33079

Yeah, I had a "code brown" moment merging into traffic this morning. Completely forgot how much of a difference it being 40 outside instead of 80.

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phunk

No problem. I saw your post but I am not sure the answer. I was under the impression that the ABS rings were the same from 2003-now on all the Z's

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