370z vs 911 ZO6 S4!!!

JoeD · 08-17-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Asheth

If I am not mistaken anytime you M-package any BMW you always get performance boosting additions to include suspension. 300C SRT-8 is what just a HP boost and some cool paint jobs and decals. along with the G8-GXP

I would say a SRT treatment brings the same level of upgrades as M for BMW. New engine, brakes, suspension, body-work, wheels/tires, interior, etc.

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Originally Posted by grahfz

-Purpose-built with balanced performance and/or driving-dynamics being the top priority

Actually, what you should have made bold was the top priority part.

grahfz · 08-17-2009, 11:21 PM

-Purpose-built with balanced performance and/or driving-dynamics being the top priority
If BMW's balance OR driving dynamics don't qualify for this, WHAT THE HELL DOES?
You can't just build a car, and THEN decide to make it handle. That's where the honda ricers are screwing up.
And by your definitions, most Ferrari's won't fit, nor a CCX, nor an F1. A porsche is mid/rear engined... and are FAMOUS for making people lose it in the corners.
A Viper.. I've never seen one complete a track day without a MAJOR failure. Plus.. 8.4Liters, but 600horsepower? BMW gets 500 out of 5!

08-17-2009, 11:24 PM

BMW is sport luxury...../argument

JoeD · 08-18-2009, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grahfz

-Purpose-built with balanced performance and/or driving-dynamics being the top priority
If BMW's balance OR driving dynamics don't qualify for this, WHAT THE HELL DOES?
You can't just build a car, and THEN decide to make it handle. That's where the honda ricers are screwing up.
And by your definitions, most Ferrari's won't fit, nor a CCX, nor an F1. A porsche is mid/rear engined... and are FAMOUS for making people lose it in the corners.
A Viper.. I've never seen one complete a track day without a MAJOR failure. Plus.. 8.4Liters, but 600horsepower? BMW gets 500 out of 5!

You talked down on "Honda ricers" and went on to mention HP/L in the same post.

Can I have a few minutes of my life back?

grahfz · 08-18-2009, 12:36 AM

It was more of a reference to how bad the american manufacturers are.
I've never owned anything less than a 6cyl/200hp car(z31). The versa rental I had was terrible enough

I'm still waiting to hear what really is a sports car.

IMWEZL · 08-18-2009, 08:30 PM

I think the OP has an advance copy of Forza Motorsport 3 and is just teasing us with his game play experience.

armensti · 08-19-2009, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by IMWEZL

I think the OP has an advance copy of Forza Motorsport 3 and is just teasing us with his game play experience.

how did you knowww?????? lol

by the way e39 m5 = sport/ luxury

370z= sport

911 turbo= sport

but just because the e39 m5 is sp/lux doesnt mean its not a sports car. its a luxurious sports car. the e39 body m5 is one of my favorite cars out there. if i was rich i would pay bmw to make me a brand new car with the body of the e39 m5, but im not and im not buying a used sports car

bboypuertoroc · 08-19-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

-Front-engine/rear-drive (although there are few MR and RR exceptions)
-2-seater
-Standard transmission
-Purpose-built with balanced performance and/or driving-dynamics being the top priority

Here's the actual dictionary definition...

Quote:

Main Entry: sports car
Function: noun
Date: 1928
: a low small usually 2-passenger automobile designed for quick response, easy maneuverability, and high-speed driving

... but there's a saying that best describes the definition of sports car:

"Ask 5 different people the definition of sports car and you'll get 5 different answers"

bboypuertoroc · 08-19-2009, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grahfz

You can't just build a car, and THEN decide to make it handle. That's where the honda ricers are screwing up.

wat

shabarivas · 08-19-2009, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grahfz

You can't just build a car, and THEN decide to make it handle. That's where the honda ricers are screwing up.

Ha ha ... you have obviously never driven an s2 / hatch / gen4 lude.... Honestly I would like to see you keep up w/ an NA Jun Gen4 Prelude ... dont be talking out of your *** man...

havasuwiley · 08-20-2009, 08:57 PM

i own both,z06 vette and 370z,while i love the nissan my "plastic "car would kick its a** on a track,tight or not

CrownR426 · 09-02-2009, 08:42 PM

One of the worst comparisons/vs thread I've read in a long time...
Thanks for the laugh op.

09-02-2009, 08:42 PM	#57 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 848	One of the worst comparisons/vs thread I've read in a long time... Thanks for the laugh op. __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

08-17-2009, 11:21 PM	#47 (permalink)
grahfz Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: atlanta Posts: 93 Drives: Touring/6/nav/sport Rep Power: 16	-Purpose-built with balanced performance and/or driving-dynamics being the top priority If BMW's balance OR driving dynamics don't qualify for this, WHAT THE HELL DOES? You can't just build a car, and THEN decide to make it handle. That's where the honda ricers are screwing up. And by your definitions, most Ferrari's won't fit, nor a CCX, nor an F1. A porsche is mid/rear engined... and are FAMOUS for making people lose it in the corners. A Viper.. I've never seen one complete a track day without a MAJOR failure. Plus.. 8.4Liters, but 600horsepower? BMW gets 500 out of 5!

08-17-2009, 11:24 PM	#48 (permalink)
blue660r01 Guest Posts: n/a	BMW is sport luxury...../argument

08-18-2009, 12:36 AM	#50 (permalink)
grahfz Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: atlanta Posts: 93 Drives: Touring/6/nav/sport Rep Power: 16	It was more of a reference to how bad the american manufacturers are. I've never owned anything less than a 6cyl/200hp car(z31). The versa rental I had was terrible enough I'm still waiting to hear what really is a sports car.

08-18-2009, 08:30 PM	#51 (permalink)
IMWEZL Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: HNL Posts: 603 Drives: 370Z/MKVII GTI Rep Power: 17	I think the OP has an advance copy of Forza Motorsport 3 and is just teasing us with his game play experience.

08-20-2009, 08:57 PM	#56 (permalink)
havasuwiley Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: lake havasu city az Posts: 131 Drives: 09 370z, 03 z06 etc Rep Power: 16	i own both,z06 vette and 370z,while i love the nissan my "plastic "car would kick its a** on a track,tight or not