Kinetix front upper control arms

DR_ · 06-06-2013, 10:10 AM

I know these are frowned on by many here because they are the cheapest option but they really aren't that bad. They hold the camber, are easy to adjust, and are just a little over a pound heavier than stock (3 lbs 6 oz vs. 2 lbs 2oz).
On my car, that is lowered less than an inch, I was able to get -2.7 degrees, which was my goal, but I could have gone past -3 degrees by getting a thinner lock nut.
I will still get the SPL arms when they come out but now I don't have to prematurely ruin tires until those arrive.

Sh0velMan · 06-06-2013, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR_

I know these are frowned on by many here because they are the cheapest option but they really aren't that bad. They hold the camber, are easy to adjust, and are just a little over a pound heavier than stock (3 lbs 6 oz vs. 2 lbs 2oz).
On my car, that is lowered less than an inch, I was able to get -2.7 degrees, which was my goal, but I could have gone past -3 degrees by getting a thinner lock nut.
I will still get the SPL arms when they come out but now I don't have to prematurely ruin tires until those arrive.

I have these as well. My ball joint dust caps have disintegrated since I got them, but they still work.

If you find a thinner nut, lemme know!

DR_ · 06-06-2013, 10:36 AM

I took off the nut just to see how far they would go and I got -4.2 degrees. If you are willing to modify the arms it would be really easy to cut the extra off the end of the arm where the ball joint screws in. So doing that with a thinner nut and I bet -3.5 is achievable, which is probably more than enough.
I am monitoring tire temps at this weekend’s event to see how my –2.7 degree does.

phunk · 06-06-2013, 12:42 PM

i lowered my car with just H&R springs. i did the camber and toe kit in the rear, but left the front stock. cant remember where my alignment specs came out, but my front tires are feathered and roaring now. hopefully they will quiet down some if I flip them inside out... cause they still have a ton of tread left and ill be using them until at least next year.

im not real big into alignment specs to know exactly why it happened. but i was figuring i will probably have to get some front upper arms or something to prevent it?

Sh0velMan · 06-06-2013, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk

i lowered my car with just H&R springs. i did the camber and toe kit in the rear, but left the front stock. cant remember where my alignment specs came out, but my front tires are feathered and roaring now. hopefully they will quiet down some if I flip them inside out... cause they still have a ton of tread left and ill be using them until at least next year.

im not real big into alignment specs to know exactly why it happened. but i was figuring i will probably have to get some front upper arms or something to prevent it?

If you want to add positive camber to even out wear, you will have to get adjustable arms for sure.

We're actually trying to get MORE negative camber for the track.

Dwnshift · 06-06-2013, 02:47 PM

If you need that much - camber..... You need a bigger front bar
Just sayin
Still

carry on

Rusty · 06-06-2013, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwnshift

if you need that much - camber..... You need a bigger front bar
just sayin
still

carry on

lmao

Sh0velMan · 06-06-2013, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwnshift

If you need that much - camber..... You need a bigger front bar
Just sayin
Still

carry on

Haha!

I would love a Doran front bar, I just don't think you could sell me one for what i can afford! haha

DR_ · 06-06-2013, 04:36 PM

FYI the seldom talked about Progress front bar is stiffer than the Hotchkis and you can buy just the front.

Sh0velMan · 06-06-2013, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR_

FYI the seldom talked about Progress front bar is stiffer than the Hotchkis and you can buy just the front.

Where did you read that it's stiffer?

DR_ · 06-06-2013, 05:05 PM

nevermind. It has the same OD but has thinner walls so it would be softer by a little bit.

Dwnshift · 06-06-2013, 06:55 PM

If only there was a place that built quality race parts that worked ....
Hmmmm

DR_ · 06-06-2013, 07:55 PM

^ spl?

Dwnshift · 06-06-2013, 09:52 PM

Maybe you didn't read my post clearly.

The parts we design and produce jn house have been the same ones we have been racing with for over a year now.

gomer_110 · 06-06-2013, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwnshift

Maybe you didn't read my post clearly.

The parts we design and produce jn house have been the same ones we have been racing with for over a year now.

I can vouch for their front camber arms being great.

06-06-2013, 10:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
DR_ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 981 Drives: Touring/Sport M6 PG Rep Power: 17	Kinetix front upper control arms I know these are frowned on by many here because they are the cheapest option but they really aren't that bad. They hold the camber, are easy to adjust, and are just a little over a pound heavier than stock (3 lbs 6 oz vs. 2 lbs 2oz). On my car, that is lowered less than an inch, I was able to get -2.7 degrees, which was my goal, but I could have gone past -3 degrees by getting a thinner lock nut. I will still get the SPL arms when they come out but now I don't have to prematurely ruin tires until those arrive. shivers likes this.

06-06-2013, 12:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	i lowered my car with just H&R springs. i did the camber and toe kit in the rear, but left the front stock. cant remember where my alignment specs came out, but my front tires are feathered and roaring now. hopefully they will quiet down some if I flip them inside out... cause they still have a ton of tread left and ill be using them until at least next year. im not real big into alignment specs to know exactly why it happened. but i was figuring i will probably have to get some front upper arms or something to prevent it? __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

06-06-2013, 06:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
Dwnshift Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cincy Posts: 717 Drives: NISMO 370Z RC Rep Power: 14	If only there was a place that built quality race parts that worked .... Hmmmm sig11, scionide and gomer_110 like this.

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06-06-2013, 10:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
DR_ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 981 Drives: Touring/Sport M6 PG Rep Power: 17	I took off the nut just to see how far they would go and I got -4.2 degrees. If you are willing to modify the arms it would be really easy to cut the extra off the end of the arm where the ball joint screws in. So doing that with a thinner nut and I bet -3.5 is achievable, which is probably more than enough. I am monitoring tire temps at this weekend’s event to see how my –2.7 degree does.

06-06-2013, 02:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dwnshift Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cincy Posts: 717 Drives: NISMO 370Z RC Rep Power: 14	If you need that much - camber..... You need a bigger front bar Just sayin Still carry on

06-06-2013, 04:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
DR_ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 981 Drives: Touring/Sport M6 PG Rep Power: 17	FYI the seldom talked about Progress front bar is stiffer than the Hotchkis and you can buy just the front.

06-06-2013, 05:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
DR_ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 981 Drives: Touring/Sport M6 PG Rep Power: 17	nevermind. It has the same OD but has thinner walls so it would be softer by a little bit.

06-06-2013, 07:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
DR_ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 981 Drives: Touring/Sport M6 PG Rep Power: 17	^ spl?

06-06-2013, 09:52 PM	#14 (permalink)
Dwnshift Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cincy Posts: 717 Drives: NISMO 370Z RC Rep Power: 14	Maybe you didn't read my post clearly. The parts we design and produce jn house have been the same ones we have been racing with for over a year now.