Oil recommendation for light track use-but hot weather.

GSS138 · 05-14-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by grant

I'm in middle Georgia, and it gets hot here. I have tracked my 2012 and at Road Atlanta, and Roebling Road the oil temp got pretty high. High enough that i replaced the OEM oil cooler with the NISMO 34 row. The OEM is good for just driving around, but when you get spirited on the track, the oil temp will get upwards of 260+ The engine coolant seemed to be fine, only the oil temp. I use the Nissan Ester oil. You may want to check your brake fluid, as it would get hot as well.

Thanks man. Brake fluid is Motul 600, so I am good to go in that dept.

Wonka2581 · 05-14-2013, 03:24 PM

I think someone needs to make a poll on what oil to use! All this talk of what oil is better and crap no this one, and no this one gets confusing as crap,

Sh0velMan · 05-14-2013, 03:39 PM

yes, that's what we need, another oil thread!

Volk Z · 05-14-2013, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GSS138

IDK but hookers and blow might be more expensive. Maybe maybe not.

Pops and his Porsche buddies all swear by mobile 1. My tech likes Motile vt300. You guys say Amsoil. I am guessing all 3 are fine, the trend seems to be use synthetic expensive oil. check.

If you guys are interested here's my old man at Mid Ohio this past sunday in his 997 S. Unfortunately we can't race unless one of us rents a helicopter and cargoes our car to the other side of the country.

Mid Ohio PCAP May '13 - YouTube

I assume you mean Motul not Motile. Motul is good stuff too but VERY expensive. Mobil 1 is ok but honestly there are probably 3-4 better oils out there for both street and track that do not wear down as poorly and are across the board a far better oil.

Your Dad should consider another oil that doesnt break down as poorly as Mobil 1 for track use. The proof is in the testing BUT i can tell you first hand my engine had more power and better gas mileage with Amsoil.

DR_ · 05-14-2013, 04:51 PM

The factory fill Mobil 1 0W40 the Porsche and GTR guys swear buy has a much better additive package than the Mobil 1 5w30 or any of the other energy conservation oils.
Redline, Motul, and Amsoil are all better oils than the Mobil 1 5w30 as well but I haven’t seen anything that shows they are better than the Mobil 1 0w40. Plus those cost twice as much or more while Mobil 1 0w40 can typically be found at AutoZone and Wal-mart for under $5 a quart.

cv129 · 05-14-2013, 08:35 PM

Just to clarify M1 0w40 is different from the other M1.

Rusty · 05-14-2013, 09:57 PM

Eveybody has an opinion on oil. What it comes down to is to change it often and to control it's temperature with an oil cooler when tracking with whatever oil you use.

olddudesrule · 05-14-2013, 10:58 PM

While I will agree that there will never be "the one" as far as oils go, I switched to the M1 0w-40 over the last two years in my modded 07 Z06, and according to my Blackstone reports (which I see little reference to in this thread), it held up well, and the wear indicators in my motor were all well within parameters. The 0W-40 fill is the European factory fill for Z06's sold over there. There was a lot of speculation on the Corette forums as to why that was, but all I can attest to is the oil worked very well in my Z06, which was much tougher on oil than my Nismo is....again, my .02's.

MJB · 05-14-2013, 11:44 PM

I don't track my Z yet, but I've had some slight oil consumption ever since I bought it. Not enough for Nissan to replace the engine, but enough to piss me off. Anyways, last oil change I decided to switch to Redline 0w-40..... And absolutely no oil consumption at all! Not really relevant to this thread, just thought I would share and I will definitely be sticking with 0w-40.

scionide · 05-15-2013, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DR_

The factory fill Mobil 1 0W40 the Porsche and GTR guys swear buy has a much better additive package than the Mobil 1 5w30 or any of the other energy conservation oils.
Redline, Motul, and Amsoil are all better oils than the Mobil 1 5w30 as well but I haven’t seen anything that shows they are better than the Mobil 1 0w40. Plus those cost twice as much or more while Mobil 1 0w40 can typically be found at AutoZone and Wal-mart for under $5 a quart.

Woah $5 a quart

?? I have to pay 9 bucks a quart at my local autozone.

GSS138 · 05-15-2013, 01:20 AM

Well I just filled with Motul vt300 and welcome to 110.00 oil change. But dmmit it's worth it!

In other exciting news, yeah none of the auto stores carry racing oil. I even went to the local hotrod shop which is one of those Eidelbrock outlets and nothing besides Mobil 0W40. Corner 3 Garage pulls through again, they stock Torco, Amsoil, Redline, and Motul.

I can see the point of Mobile 1 0W40 that oil, starts thin, cheap, will pick my pops and the Porsche guys' brains a little and see why they like it so much. Knowing those guys though, the reason will be "because Porsche says so".

wstar · 05-15-2013, 02:35 AM

Really the difference between any of the "good" choices is likely to be marginal if you're maintaining things well. I don't think anyone's listed a bad oil in this thread yet

. I've always fed mine Motul 300V 5W30 and it's been happy so far.

DR_ · 05-15-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by scionide

Woah $5 a quart

?? I have to pay 9 bucks a quart at my local autozone.

If you buy per quart at Autozone sure it is a lot higher, but they have a sale every other month on it where you can get 5 qts and an oil filter in the low thirties, which once you factor in the price of the oil filter is under $5 a quart.
Walmart has the 5 qt jugs for under $25.

Volk Z · 05-15-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MJB

I don't track my Z yet, but I've had some slight oil consumption ever since I bought it. Not enough for Nissan to replace the engine, but enough to piss me off. Anyways, last oil change I decided to switch to Redline 0w-40..... And absolutely no oil consumption at all! Not really relevant to this thread, just thought I would share and I will definitely be sticking with 0w-40.

This has total relevance, it states what i was saying... The breakdown of cheaper oils will burn off where as Redline, Amsoil, Motul etc have a higher tolerance to not just dissappear

Great comment to be added to this thread!

cv129 · 05-15-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scionide

Woah $5 a quart

?? I have to pay 9 bucks a quart at my local autozone.

Used to be small bottle only and it would cost about that much per quart. The 5 qt jugs are now available and Walmart sold them for the same price as the other M1, so it's just a little over $5 per qt last time I purchased.

05-14-2013, 03:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
Wonka2581 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 3,083 Drives: MY WIFE CRAZY.... Rep Power: 2612	I think someone needs to make a poll on what oil to use! All this talk of what oil is better and crap no this one, and no this one gets confusing as crap, __________________ "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat""Winston Churchill"

05-14-2013, 03:39 PM	#18 (permalink)
Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 20	yes, that's what we need, another oil thread! cv129 likes this. __________________ Buy My Car! \| Build Thread

05-14-2013, 04:51 PM	#20 (permalink)
DR_ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 981 Drives: Touring/Sport M6 PG Rep Power: 17	The factory fill Mobil 1 0W40 the Porsche and GTR guys swear buy has a much better additive package than the Mobil 1 5w30 or any of the other energy conservation oils. Redline, Motul, and Amsoil are all better oils than the Mobil 1 5w30 as well but I haven’t seen anything that shows they are better than the Mobil 1 0w40. Plus those cost twice as much or more while Mobil 1 0w40 can typically be found at AutoZone and Wal-mart for under $5 a quart. cv129 likes this.

05-14-2013, 08:35 PM	#21 (permalink)
cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,245 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 163995	Just to clarify M1 0w40 is different from the other M1. Sh0velMan likes this.

05-14-2013, 09:57 PM	#22 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,238 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	Eveybody has an opinion on oil. What it comes down to is to change it often and to control it's temperature with an oil cooler when tracking with whatever oil you use. SPOHN and olddudesrule like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

05-14-2013, 10:58 PM	#23 (permalink)
olddudesrule Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 252 Drives: 2012 Nismo Rep Power: 12	While I will agree that there will never be "the one" as far as oils go, I switched to the M1 0w-40 over the last two years in my modded 07 Z06, and according to my Blackstone reports (which I see little reference to in this thread), it held up well, and the wear indicators in my motor were all well within parameters. The 0W-40 fill is the European factory fill for Z06's sold over there. There was a lot of speculation on the Corette forums as to why that was, but all I can attest to is the oil worked very well in my Z06, which was much tougher on oil than my Nismo is....again, my .02's.

05-14-2013, 11:44 PM	#24 (permalink)
MJB A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tacoma, WA Age: 41 Posts: 1,498 Drives: a POS truck Rep Power: 496	I don't track my Z yet, but I've had some slight oil consumption ever since I bought it. Not enough for Nissan to replace the engine, but enough to piss me off. Anyways, last oil change I decided to switch to Redline 0w-40..... And absolutely no oil consumption at all! Not really relevant to this thread, just thought I would share and I will definitely be sticking with 0w-40. __________________ 09 Nismo #0483 sold. Viper or C7 next time around.

05-15-2013, 01:20 AM	#26 (permalink)
GSS138 Track Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 769 Drives: '12 370Z 6M Sport Rep Power: 13	Well I just filled with Motul vt300 and welcome to 110.00 oil change. But dmmit it's worth it! In other exciting news, yeah none of the auto stores carry racing oil. I even went to the local hotrod shop which is one of those Eidelbrock outlets and nothing besides Mobil 0W40. Corner 3 Garage pulls through again, they stock Torco, Amsoil, Redline, and Motul. I can see the point of Mobile 1 0W40 that oil, starts thin, cheap, will pick my pops and the Porsche guys' brains a little and see why they like it so much. Knowing those guys though, the reason will be "because Porsche says so". __________________ Current Mods: Vorpal Weapon +5. Last edited by GSS138; 05-15-2013 at 10:59 AM.

05-15-2013, 02:35 AM	#27 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	Really the difference between any of the "good" choices is likely to be marginal if you're maintaining things well. I don't think anyone's listed a bad oil in this thread yet . I've always fed mine Motul 300V 5W30 and it's been happy so far. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

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