Any drifters out there?

DriftKr6l · 04-09-2013, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Yes there is. You have to install "phunk's" road race pump kit. It's a second fuel pump that gets installed in the tank on the drivers side. It's not cheap. You're looking at a $1000.00. It will take you about a day to install it. Here's a link to my install, and another talking about the problem.

phunk's road race fuel pump install

Fuel Starvation Control Product

Uff, Ill stick to always making sure my fuel level is above 1/4 tank.

Rusty · 04-09-2013, 12:32 AM

Good luck. I got fuel starve at a half tank on the street. Some guys was/is getting it at about 3/4 full on the track.

DriftKr6l · 04-09-2013, 01:01 AM

Jeez, really Nissan?!?

clintfocus · 04-09-2013, 02:10 AM

if you dont do the road race fix kit, do what us road course guys do and just top off. drifting you should be fine, we are and we're under sustained G load

SurfDog · 04-09-2013, 03:27 AM

I put in a quaife LSD and love the way I can power slide and drift now. the OEM VLSD is terrible.

I chose helical gear (quaife) for ease of maintenance and durability.

clintfocus · 04-09-2013, 04:40 AM

for drifting a 2 way is ideal at either 80% or 100% lock up. since 2 way has the same lock engagement under acceleration and decel, it makes it consistent under the rapid "on/off" throttle inputs during drifting

Apollo8642 · 04-09-2013, 01:02 PM

Here is something inspirational for you guys.

http://vimeo.com/32479489

Apollo8642 · 04-09-2013, 01:14 PM

When it comes to parts look what the pros are running in track and drift, and use that as a good jumping off point. Everyone has an opinion but most people have only run one of whatever it is, and don't know anything past that.
You can hit up the guy that runs the Nismo RC on this site and you usually can hit up Forsberg on Facebook or hit him or his team at one of the FD events.

faplifesmitty · 04-15-2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Apollo8642

I would highly recommend you do something about the fuel starvation the 370z suffers from as well.

Here is my guide lines of things you need to be able to drift proper. I have little over 13 years of drifting and being heavily into it. I have seen my share of cars go to the scap yard, including one I put there myself.
My last drift car engine build www.ka-t.org :: View topic - My build

#1, A good LSD 1.5way for more experienced drivers and 2way for the newbies. can't afford a good diff and still going to drift no matter what, you might as well just weld it. (yes you can daily drive a welded diff)
#2, Good brakes, and no ABS
#2 1/2, Cooling, oil, diff and power steering coolers, the Z's are known to boil their diff fluid, and that is a bad thing specially for a clutch type LSD, drifting puts a lot of heat in to your car, keeping the engine fluids, power steering fluids cool is important.
#3, Suspention, good coilovers (look and see what Chris Forsberg is running and his setup on his 370Z FD car) also include adjustable arms, bushings, and solid bushings for the diff, subframe, steering rack, and rear knuckles are best for drifting. Reason for these is the play you get from the rubber or poly bushings can be a little bit unpredictable, and installing solid bushing will make the car very loud, but it will handle more predictable and that is something you want.
#3 1/2, Get your car corner balanced and your suspension proper aligned for what your doing, it will make a huge difference.
#4, Fuel starvation, right hand turns are a bitch when you pushing those lateral G's in the 370z's.
The advice section:
#5, Make sure you have a second car, difting will break the things.
#6, Remember it's not if you wreck, it's when you wreck, and drifting can be damn expensive, don't be a cheap *** on parts either.
#7, Drifting is something you do before, in, and out of a corner. Power sliding, doughnuts, and power overs are not drifting, no matter what anyone else tells you.
#8, Work on your short game build a foundation then work your way up to the big stuff. Driving an under powered car is the best way to build a solid foundation. Cars like the AE86, and the S13/S14 etc (aka your drift bitch, something your not afraid to hurt and usually is ugly as hell but cheap for parts), will help you lean more and be a much better driver/drifter.
#9, Good Luck!

I preach about #7 more than fat girls eat.

Great advise though. My last car was the end of cheap/ fake parts, no worries here.

I'm currently building a sr20det powered e21, but i might just sell it and get a 240. I want to start getting competitive soon. Hopefully getting a s15 in a few years

faplifesmitty · 04-15-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Apollo8642

Here is something inspirational for you guys.

Chris Forsberg year end visual wrap up - YAER Productions on Vimeo

Sweet vid

faplifesmitty · 04-15-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SurfDog

I put in a quaife LSD and love the way I can power slide and drift now. the OEM VLSD is terrible.

I chose helical gear (quaife) for ease of maintenance and durability.

The vlsd is a piece

how does the quaife perform against other diffs?

Merlinshawn · 04-15-2013, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Apollo8642

Here is something inspirational for you guys.

Chris Forsberg year end visual wrap up - YAER Productions on Vimeo

Here is a SpeedHunters artical about the car, including some of the parts and engine they used
CAR FEATURE>> CHRIS FORSBERG'S FORMULA D 370Z - Speedhunters

SurfDog · 04-24-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by faplifesmitty

The vlsd is a piece

how does the Quaife perform against other diffs?

Ive only driven the Quaife, (and OEM) but for my mostly DDing and occasional dirt road drifting around the back woods it is great. It is much more predictable than the OEM VLSD (sport) and does not build up nearly as much heat. I believe it will be much more durable (than OEM) and know it is much more fun.

Bear in mind I'm more of a powerslider and doughnut spinner than a drifter, so I would look for more experienced drivers for advice if you are going for a "track drifting" upgrade.

I chose Quaife over locking clutch type LSD. (I think NISMO makes one BTW) due to this being mostly a DD and the clutch diffs are a bit unpleasant for DD. I understand there are "clunking noises etc and jerky around parking lots etc. Also I understand that the clutch plates inside 2 way diffs eventually wear down and require maintenance and go through diff fluid much more quickly due to heat buildup as they are friction operated.

overall I think they (clutch-plate style adjustable 1.5 and 2 way diffs) are better for "serious" drifters (which I am not) but the tradeoff is more maintenance and harsh DD.

Good luck with your choice. I recommend hitting up some drift events and talking to the guys before you decide. If that's not possibly bolt in something fun and decide for yourself! your real expense is going to be tires, you will hardly notice the money you spend maintaining your diff lol

Quaife LSDs are used in a lot of rally cars, so I know they are build for speed, but you would have to ask a real racer for a better understanding of the nitty gritty pros and cons.

VDC_OFF · 04-24-2013, 02:57 PM

FINALLY some more 370 guys into drifting...where have you been??

OP, yes I have that issue every time I exit, it snaps like crazy but Ive gotten used to it. I thought I just need to be a little more smooth on releasing the gas but the whole VLSD stuff makes sense. I need to get an LSD but trying not to spend right now on anything but tires. If you check my videos you will see the snap.

This thread makes me happy though as the more 370's we have into drifting, the more aftermarket support we may get for items such as tie rods and 2nd caliper setups.

DriftKr6l · 04-24-2013, 03:22 PM

I have started my built yesterday.

-KW Veriant 3 coils
-H&R spacers with replaced longer studs
-SPC camber upper
-Stillen intakes

Next to come:
-Eibach adjustable sway bars
-Z1 brake lines with RBF 600
-Invidia Genesis CBE
-Megan down pipes
-SPC rear camber arms.
-Kaaz 2way SuperQ LSD
-Nismo finned diff cover
-Oil cooler

That should be enough for now

04-09-2013, 12:32 AM	#17 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,217 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	Good luck. I got fuel starve at a half tank on the street. Some guys was/is getting it at about 3/4 full on the track. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

04-09-2013, 02:10 AM	#19 (permalink)
clintfocus Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: los angeles Age: 39 Posts: 933 Drives: 370z, EK Civic, F150 Rep Power: 15	if you dont do the road race fix kit, do what us road course guys do and just top off. drifting you should be fine, we are and we're under sustained G load Last edited by clintfocus; 04-09-2013 at 02:35 AM.

04-09-2013, 03:27 AM	#20 (permalink)
SurfDog A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Colorado (9000 feet) Age: 56 Posts: 1,796 Drives: 09 6mt, 13 Sequoia, Rep Power: 15749	I put in a quaife LSD and love the way I can power slide and drift now. the OEM VLSD is terrible. I chose helical gear (quaife) for ease of maintenance and durability. __________________ 09 6spd Berk CBE, JWT cams, ZSpeed CSC, Stillen (25 row oil, brake cooling, sways, gen3 CAI), Passport (9500ci), Quaife LSD, Z1 400 hp kit, ss lines, pads, rotors, clutch etc, Phunk's pan and fuel starve fix

04-09-2013, 04:40 AM	#21 (permalink)
clintfocus Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: los angeles Age: 39 Posts: 933 Drives: 370z, EK Civic, F150 Rep Power: 15	for drifting a 2 way is ideal at either 80% or 100% lock up. since 2 way has the same lock engagement under acceleration and decel, it makes it consistent under the rapid "on/off" throttle inputs during drifting faplifesmitty and Bswanny like this.

04-09-2013, 01:02 PM	#22 (permalink)
Apollo8642 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 187 Drives: 09 370Z Nismo #280 Rep Power: 13	Here is something inspirational for you guys. http://vimeo.com/32479489 VDC_OFF, Jbwrecked and faplifesmitty like this.

04-09-2013, 01:01 AM	#18 (permalink)
DriftKr6l Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Elk Grove Vlg, Ill Posts: 166 Drives: 09 370Z, 10 GT-R Rep Power: 12	Jeez, really Nissan?!?

04-09-2013, 01:14 PM	#23 (permalink)
Apollo8642 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 187 Drives: 09 370Z Nismo #280 Rep Power: 13	When it comes to parts look what the pros are running in track and drift, and use that as a good jumping off point. Everyone has an opinion but most people have only run one of whatever it is, and don't know anything past that. You can hit up the guy that runs the Nismo RC on this site and you usually can hit up Forsberg on Facebook or hit him or his team at one of the FD events.

04-24-2013, 02:57 PM	#29 (permalink)
VDC_OFF A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Houston (Pearland) Age: 44 Posts: 1,205 Drives: 2011 370Z M6 Rep Power: 17	FINALLY some more 370 guys into drifting...where have you been?? OP, yes I have that issue every time I exit, it snaps like crazy but Ive gotten used to it. I thought I just need to be a little more smooth on releasing the gas but the whole VLSD stuff makes sense. I need to get an LSD but trying not to spend right now on anything but tires. If you check my videos you will see the snap. This thread makes me happy though as the more 370's we have into drifting, the more aftermarket support we may get for items such as tie rods and 2nd caliper setups. __________________ DRIFTING JOURNAL \| Follow me on Instagram \| Facebook \| Houston Halos

04-24-2013, 03:22 PM	#30 (permalink)
DriftKr6l Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Elk Grove Vlg, Ill Posts: 166 Drives: 09 370Z, 10 GT-R Rep Power: 12	I have started my built yesterday. -KW Veriant 3 coils -H&R spacers with replaced longer studs -SPC camber upper -Stillen intakes Next to come: -Eibach adjustable sway bars -Z1 brake lines with RBF 600 -Invidia Genesis CBE -Megan down pipes -SPC rear camber arms. -Kaaz 2way SuperQ LSD -Nismo finned diff cover -Oil cooler That should be enough for now

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