Harness suggestions, anyone?
 

Harness suggestions anyone?

I've got a set of seats coming my way and need to get a set of harnesses to go with them. I've been eyeing the Scroth Profi II 6 pt (saferace.com Profi II) but am open to other suggestions. Something cheaper than these would be great but for something safety related I'm looking for quality first, price second.

Thanks for the help in advance.

I think those are a great choice, but for $10 more I would get the Hans model if you have a Hans device. If you don't have a Hans device...you need to get one. :)

;)

I like the Scroth Hybrid model as they are more comfortable on my junk. They do take longer to put on though so they aren't good for fast enduro driver changes.

I was looking at this one, to try and spend a little less: Schroth*Clubman 6PT Camlock Harness*-*SafeRacer

The clubman is a good buy for the money.

A non-hans harness with 3" shoulder belts can be used equally with a Hans device or without. A Hans specific harness with 2" shoulders should NOT be used without a Hans device. Get the 3"

Schroth is the consensus.

How are you going to mount/install them? Do you have a rollcage or harness bar?

Thanks you answered the next question I was going to ask.

I have a Robispec harness bar on its way.

I have Racetech belts, because they are orange and the only ones that offered orange. Way too expensive and I don't like the way the lap adjusts at the anchor end and not the buckle end, so I don't recommend those.

Forged Performance let me use a loaner set of belts while I was waiting for the racetech ones to come in from England, they were the basic G-Force belts and I liked them a lot. Comfortable and easy to adjust.

GForce is my other possibility. I am shooting for the Schroth atm because it has the "loop over" shoulder straps.

I may need to go with "anchored" style and if I do, I'll go GForce.

I have a Profi-II HANS harness and I think my next will be a Safecraft. They're SFI certified not FIA so the certification period is shorter but you get a free rewebbing to make up for it. They seem to adjust more smoothly and they hold settings as well as the schroth. Oh... and they're cheaper. :)

you can do the gforce as a loop over. just need to take the bolt down bracket off of it, its just threaded through on the end. There is plenty of length and a fitting to loop it.

Can't you wrap anchors onto any belts?


Edit: bah! Beaten by Mike!

I prefer latch and link systems to Cam locks simply because they are faster to get in and out of when you zip tie. Cam locks always leave me confused at first as to what goes where. Thats just my $.02 its all personal preference.

Mike, Sig, thanks for the heads up... I feel kinda silly now haha.

Here's a question.

Pull up or Pull down.

Pull Down = Normal
Pull Up = you have crew to strap you in?

Edit: NM, I figured it out lol

Damn you are hard core :) A lot of the rental Miatas here have latch and link, which I hate.

Yea, but they don't zip tie the left shoulder+left lap and right shoulder and right lap belt I bet. That way all you got to do is throw the on left side pull up crotch and throw over right side and latch. Also, use surgical tubing to pull the left side left, right side right and the lap belt down and forward. This way the belts always snap to an open position when you unlink yourself. There is no searching for belts or any of that crap and on camlock systems this is impossible. It really is the fastest way I know to do belts in a race car and on a street car that uses DOT approved harnesses its nice to be able to get in and go quickly. If they are not zip tied/surgical tubed then latch and link are a total nightmare.

Does this affect you autocross classing any? I have been trying to read up on the allowed modifications, but I can’t figure out if this is classified as like chassis brace or something else.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...51707678_n.jpg
Schroth Profi 2, six point

This is what I have but in black:

http://assets0.saferacer.com/images/...013_1_orig.jpg

Takata released some new cheaper harnesses. I plan on getting the drift III
takata - FRSport.com Search

http://i1.frsimg.com/images/detailed_images/d3bk.jpg

oops mine are the 3" ones

Teamtech Jetpilot

TOTALLY what i look for when buying safety gear. :tup:

My take on this is that there is already a bar there from the factory. From an engineering stand point the Robispec bar isn't going to increase chassis stiffness much at all. What is will do is provide additional bending strength which is where the factory bar sucks.

More importantly I'm just running regional events at this point to improve my skills. Once I get to a point where I'll run national events I might be more concerned with this.

There's nothing wrong with not letting yourself be ripped off. More expensive doesn't automatically mean safer or better in any way.

Thanks, Ive never heard complaints about Takata.

What would you guys suggest for AutoX and the occasional track day, 4 point or 6 point harness?

I have:

- a harness bar waiting to be installed (thanks Mike!)
- stock seats

I plan to leave stock belts in place (for street use) and connect the harness to the stock belt anchor points using something like this: Harness Mount - Door Side-Rennline, Inc.

This will probably work for a 4 point harness, but for a 6 point I need to find out where/how to mount the crotch straps/anti-sub belt.

Anyone out there who has been down this path?

I just replaced the stock bolt with something like this. They replace the stock bolt, so I have one of those into the left, then drilled the transmission tunnel and added one on the right, 2 more under the seat for the 6 point harness, and 2 more on the harness bar:
http://www.weekend-racer.com/images/...e_Bolt_Nut.jpg
The big washers are used for transmission tunnel, floor 6 point....
http://www.weekend-racer.com/images/...t_Nut_50mm.jpg

and here is my custom harness by The R's Tuning (thanks!!)
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...77834747_n.jpg

That's pretty much the same as we did for mine. Don't waste your money on a 4pt. PCA and some other clubs won't allow them and submarining is a bad time.

Thanks for the feedback guys. So simply drill straight through transmission tunnel and floor? And where about in the floor under the seat, just behind the front edge of the seat of further back?

Different harnesses need different angles. I suggest you read their installation manual or have someone do it. Even the 2 points under the seat need a certain degree...

Thanks again! Will do.

for example here is schroth profi II: page 2: http://www.schrothracing.com/docs/Sc..._Checklist.pdf

hmm, looks like a sub strap will not work with stock seats, as there is no opening for them. Might be time to look into a dedicated racing seat...

With the right type of harness you can run it through between the base and back.

Sub straps? lol

Correct with stock seats you do not run a sub strap, if anything u can run a 4 point like schroth that has anti submarining technology.... ASM? I think

Ended up going with a set of these:

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/...185E1F0BB6.jpg

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/...18602E45A6.jpg