help with SCCA track classification please

chrischhorn · 01-21-2013, 09:55 PM

hey all, wanting to do my first autox event on february 10th. i need to find out what class I'm in as hete they dont allow on the spot tape ups. need to have a professionally printed sign on each side of the car to participate. on it, it requires car # and class so i need to know which class i would fall in. i know that we are stock C but i have springs, headers, test pipes, cbe, and intake. I want to order sway bars but dont wanna do front and rear and be thrown out to the wolves. Running 275 tires in the rear with 18x10.5" D.O.T. tires. not R compound. I've searched on the forum and read the SCCA rule book thoroughly but still am a bit confused. any help is great. Thanks in advance!

gomer_110 · 01-21-2013, 09:58 PM

ASP

It's the test pipes and wider rear wheels that kill you. Both sway bars are legal in ASP so at this point go for it.
Also depending on the competition in your area, you're going to be outgunned by the guys running R-Comp tires regardless what you do.

fastguy9r · 01-21-2013, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn

hey all, wanting to do my first autox event on february 10th. i need to find out what class I'm in as hete they dont allow on the spot tape ups. need to have a professionally printed sign on each side of the car to participate. on it, it requires car # and class so i need to know which class i would fall in. i know that we are stock C but i have springs, headers, test pipes, cbe, and intake. I want to order sway bars but dont wanna do front and rear and be thrown out to the wolves. Running 275 tires in the rear with 18x10.5" D.O.T. tires. not R compound. I've searched on the forum and read the SCCA rule book thoroughly but still am a bit confused. any help is great. Thanks in advance!

Yea ASP! The only two classes that are cars fall in are c-stock and asp unless you have a Nismo then you would be in b-stock. If you wanted to run c- stock you would have to remove the springs, test pipes and intake. You can only have 1 sway bar also in c-stock. Remember you can not get magnetic numbers if you plan on putting them on the doors. The doors and the hood are aluminum.

IMWEZL · 01-21-2013, 10:41 PM

ASP in Hawaii...hey man don't get discouraged. I learned a lot from the Lee and Parker family out there at Aloha Stadium.

Just remember have fun and listen during the course walks/driving instructor.

gomer_110 · 01-21-2013, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fastguy9r

Yea ASP! The only two classes that are cars fall in are c-stock and asp unless you have a Nismo then you would be in b-stock. If you wanted to run c- stock you would have to remove the springs, test pipes and intake. You can only have 1 sway bar also in c-stock. Remember you can not get magnetic numbers if you plan on putting them on the doors. The doors and the hood are aluminum.

Actually the non-Nismo's can now run in STR assuming legal modifications. Here's the link to the change.

SCCA Fasttrack

#9283 370Z Classing Proposal
Per the STAC, this is addressed by two separate Tech Bulletins:
1) Add to STR: ‘09-’12 Nissan 370Z (except NISMO)
2) Clarifiy 14.4 by adding: “Standard equipment wheels exceeding these maximums are not permitted.”

IMWEZL · 01-21-2013, 10:48 PM

I took a look at sccahawaii.org and there is only one other driver in ASP. An 07 SLK55.
Now if you were to return to stock and run C-Stock...that would be a blast against all those BRZ/Miatas/RX8s.

chrischhorn · 01-21-2013, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IMWEZL

I took a look at sccahawaii.org and there is only one other driver in ASP. An 07 SLK55.
Now if you were to return to stock and run C-Stock...that would be a blast against all those BRZ/Miatas/RX8s.

That may be the way to go but does that mean I need to go back to stock wheel and tires sizes also? I mean, I'm not worried about trying to finish first right away as I'm just looking to have some fun as there is no drag strip on Oahu and its the closest thing we have to racing on a track.

Thank you all for the input so far! I'm not sure how organized they are out here with it and how strict they will be on classes since we are well....stuck on an island lol. So ASP looks like where I'm at at the moment. Any other mods I should jump on to even be somewhat competitive in the future when I start becoming more serious?

cossie1600 · 01-22-2013, 12:13 AM

R comps

chrischhorn · 01-22-2013, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

R comps

simple enough lol. Obviously I don't wanna tear apart some R comps before I even get use to being behind the wheel that aggressively. I don't have that much money to burn lol.

Shamu · 01-22-2013, 05:24 AM

As stated you are in ASP with those mods. And you have already been thrown to wolves.

What tires r u running and what alignment settings u running for camber and toe?

IMWEZL · 01-22-2013, 11:38 AM

Stay in ASP it won't be that bad

C Stock in Hawaii looks very competitive. I was running within .5 seconds of Tom Richards RX-8 with Hoosier A6 with my 370Z on stock tires. He's now running 3-4 in class against those BRZs.

If any mods I would go with a set of sways. Don't change too much at once. I also recommend sticking with street tires so you can develop good habits and a feel for what's going on (weight transition/power on off/when to brake/how much brake). Just have fun and get seat time in.

HOOAH!

**Oh yeah...if you get a chance to do fun runs look for Jon Matsushige in the black Camaro SS. Let him drive your Z. He will drive it like he stole it which will give you a new perspective of what the car is capable of. Just watch him and the course and take mental notes.

IMWEZL · 01-22-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

Actually the non-Nismo's can now run in STR assuming legal modifications. Here's the link to the change.

SCCA Fasttrack

#9283 370Z Classing Proposal
Per the STAC, this is addressed by two separate Tech Bulletins:
1) Add to STR: ‘09-’12 Nissan 370Z (except NISMO)
2) Clarifiy 14.4 by adding: “Standard equipment wheels exceeding these maximums are not permitted.”

Hey Gomer...are they changing the limitation on tire width as well. Last year STR was limited to 255mm and wheel widths were restricted too.

gomer_110 · 01-22-2013, 02:55 PM

Not sure to be honest. Someone just pointed this out to me yesterday on here (STR Post). After I saw the "Non-Nismo" part I quit reading.

IMO the Nismo and non-Nismo in ST trim are equal based on the legal mods that are allowed. So once again I'm facing Nismo discrimination.

IMWEZL · 01-22-2013, 04:06 PM

^ Had to be different huh? Couldn't get a catback and set of springs like the rest of us? Just kidding!

gomer_110 · 01-22-2013, 04:12 PM

Well I went with the LTH's which immediately bumped me to ASP so at that point I figured wth let's just go all the way. Still have a lot of work (and parts) to go but I'm well on my way.

01-21-2013, 09:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
chrischhorn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Mililani, HI Posts: 1,566 Drives: 2014 Juke Nismo RS Rep Power: 16	help with SCCA track classification please hey all, wanting to do my first autox event on february 10th. i need to find out what class I'm in as hete they dont allow on the spot tape ups. need to have a professionally printed sign on each side of the car to participate. on it, it requires car # and class so i need to know which class i would fall in. i know that we are stock C but i have springs, headers, test pipes, cbe, and intake. I want to order sway bars but dont wanna do front and rear and be thrown out to the wolves. Running 275 tires in the rear with 18x10.5" D.O.T. tires. not R compound. I've searched on the forum and read the SCCA rule book thoroughly but still am a bit confused. any help is great. Thanks in advance! __________________ R.I.P. 8/01/13 1SlowZ One day I'll have another....

01-21-2013, 09:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	ASP It's the test pipes and wider rear wheels that kill you. Both sway bars are legal in ASP so at this point go for it. Also depending on the competition in your area, you're going to be outgunned by the guys running R-Comp tires regardless what you do. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock Last edited by gomer_110; 01-21-2013 at 10:06 PM.

01-21-2013, 10:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
IMWEZL Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: HNL Posts: 603 Drives: 370Z/MKVII GTI Rep Power: 17	ASP in Hawaii...hey man don't get discouraged. I learned a lot from the Lee and Parker family out there at Aloha Stadium. Just remember have fun and listen during the course walks/driving instructor. blackcherry20 likes this.

01-22-2013, 05:24 AM	#10 (permalink)
Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 19	As stated you are in ASP with those mods. And you have already been thrown to wolves. What tires r u running and what alignment settings u running for camber and toe? __________________ Grant Last edited by Shamu; 01-22-2013 at 05:28 AM.

01-22-2013, 11:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
IMWEZL Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: HNL Posts: 603 Drives: 370Z/MKVII GTI Rep Power: 17	Stay in ASP it won't be that bad C Stock in Hawaii looks very competitive. I was running within .5 seconds of Tom Richards RX-8 with Hoosier A6 with my 370Z on stock tires. He's now running 3-4 in class against those BRZs. If any mods I would go with a set of sways. Don't change too much at once. I also recommend sticking with street tires so you can develop good habits and a feel for what's going on (weight transition/power on off/when to brake/how much brake). Just have fun and get seat time in. HOOAH! *Oh yeah...if you get a chance to do fun runs look for Jon Matsushige in the black Camaro SS. Let him drive your Z. He will drive it like he stole it which will give you a new perspective of what the car is capable of. Just watch him and the course and take mental notes. Last edited by IMWEZL; 01-22-2013 at 11:44 AM. Reason: Drivers Ed*

01-21-2013, 10:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
IMWEZL Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: HNL Posts: 603 Drives: 370Z/MKVII GTI Rep Power: 17	I took a look at sccahawaii.org and there is only one other driver in ASP. An 07 SLK55. Now if you were to return to stock and run C-Stock...that would be a blast against all those BRZ/Miatas/RX8s.

01-22-2013, 12:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	R comps

01-22-2013, 02:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	Not sure to be honest. Someone just pointed this out to me yesterday on here (STR Post). After I saw the "Non-Nismo" part I quit reading. IMO the Nismo and non-Nismo in ST trim are equal based on the legal mods that are allowed. So once again I'm facing Nismo discrimination. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

01-22-2013, 04:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
IMWEZL Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: HNL Posts: 603 Drives: 370Z/MKVII GTI Rep Power: 17	^ Had to be different huh? Couldn't get a catback and set of springs like the rest of us? Just kidding!

01-22-2013, 04:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	Well I went with the LTH's which immediately bumped me to ASP so at that point I figured wth let's just go all the way. Still have a lot of work (and parts) to go but I'm well on my way. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

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