Originally Posted by zpower86 It would likely get beaten in FS as well. FS isn't four grades slower than BS, it's just another class. The more the HP friendly the
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IMHO there isn't one anymore. It was C street prior to the ND Miata.
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I hear all the criticisms and I think they are valid, but I think that because we know our cars so well we have a tendency to over emphasize their flaws in relation to their competition. If the car is capable of doing well regionally, at tours, and even getting mid trophy spots at nats, I would hardly consider competing in street to not be a worthwhile pursuit for the folks looking to autocross with a relatively minimal investment into a vehicle they may already own. I think we all can agree it isn't "the car to have" though. |
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Street classes need to be for "new and shiny" i.e. newer models that people want to own. The 370z just doesn't fit that mold anymore and as such if it's not classed favorably then so be it. There's always STU (hopefully) and ASP.
fwiw sometimes the SAC and SEB do a good job at following this mentality and other times not so much.
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This months Fastrack is out and it looks like someone finally realized the 370 belongs in BSP and not ASP.
Now to figure out how to go even faster. Stupid Miatas.
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Just to be clear. BSP has been faster than ASP the last 2 years. The MazdaSpeed Miatas are insanely fast.
Also, I had nothing to do with this letter.
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Although not my intention to **** on anyone here or otherwise...there is no reason a full prep 370 should not run at the front of ASP (excluding most pros). I personally don't think it should move, since it hasn't been proven, too me, that it is not competitive in ASP. Everyone said the same for the 350z in BSP, but that was shown not to be the case. IMO you can't reclass a car with a performance envelope, on paper, that meets or in some cases exceeds the current competitive balance if the class just because no one has built a rule book car yet.
That last 1-2% prep costs a lot of money, time, prep, etc and yes it will also be the point when the car starts to break, a lot, but someone needs to do it. As an example, we did 83 dyno runs alone just testing intake configurations for my DE BSP car. I would bet it had 250 runs on a dyno to maximize it to the SP ruleset. We probably could have gotten within 15-20whp with 10% of those runs, but not the powerband/max power without it. Same goes for suspension. I can't tell you how many times the shocks (Custom Koni, motons, penske all of them in my case) were off the car for revalve...along with any billion different combos of springs, bars, alignment, etc. Last edited by 03threefiftyz; 09-22-2017 at 12:27 PM. |
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