Track Day Best Practices - MUST READ

GSS138 · 05-21-2014, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Shut up brainiac

check out the big brain on brad - YouTube

synolimit · 05-21-2014, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wstar

There are basically two "styles" of replacement SS brake line you can go with. The OEM-style ones retain all of the connections and mounting points of the originals (it's like, 2 little lines attached to connection blocks that screw down to the suspension). Then there's the straight kind that are just a single line of the correct length. In Z1's store, "premium" is OEM-style and the not-premium is the single-line kind. If you do the OEM ones you don't have to change anything but the lines. The straight ones have fewer connections and allow you to remove a few brackets and things to dump a little weight from the front suspension. That's what I'm running, but I had to put some plastic shields on my coilovers to make sure the threads on the coilover didn't try to rub the brake lines.

That's why I went premium. Rubs etc scare me on a brake line. But mine are rusted solid now so a blow out failure could happen anytime too.

Sh0velMan · 05-21-2014, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

That's why I went premium. Rubs etc scare me on a brake line. But mine are rusted solid now so a blow out failure could happen anytime too.

More joints to fail is not superior to a hypothetical possibility of rubbing, which would only happen if you didn't spend 5 minutes ensuring that everything was routed and secured properly.

JARblue · 05-21-2014, 09:05 AM

I just ordered the non-premium lines from Z1 at their recommendation. Their reasoning was the connection blocks just add another potential leak point. Made sense to me, not to mention you save a few bucks

synolimit · 05-21-2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

More joints to fail is not superior to a hypothetical possibility of rubbing, which would only happen if you didn't spend 5 minutes ensuring that everything was routed and secured properly.

Well nissan and millions went into multi joints so...

And you can't spot rubbing through metal collars. I think this is a terrible design!! I'll take OEM style thanks.

Sh0velMan · 05-21-2014, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Well nissan and millions went into multi joints so...

And you can't spot rubbing through metal collars. I think this is a terrible design!! I'll take OEM style thanks.

So don't use those collars, you're a smart boy, you can figure out another solution. I believe in you!

You can take whatever you want, but adding more places for leaks or failures to occur over a simpler and lighter design is a step backwards. That's plain and simple fact.

exsanity · 05-21-2014, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

So don't use those collars, you're a smart boy, you can figure out another solution. I believe in you!

You can take whatever you want, but adding more places for leaks or failures to occur over a simpler and lighter design is a step backwards. That's plain and simple fact.

OR.. or.. stay with me.. use the collar with a rubber grommet designed for these sorts of applications.

Arrvaxx · 08-20-2014, 09:11 PM

Bumping a great thread.

carlitos_370z · 08-21-2014, 08:45 AM

I can wait to track my Z... my car is ready... Z1 brake lines, Motul brake fulid, stoptech brake pads and Swift springs...

MightyBobo · 08-21-2014, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z

I can wait to track my Z... my car is ready... Z1 brake lines, Motul brake fulid, stoptech brake pads and Swift springs...

Oil cooler? And which pads?

carlitos_370z · 08-21-2014, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Oil cooler? And which pads?

i still have the oem one but im going to buy the Z1 25 rows oil cooler soon... and the pads are the Stoptech Street Performance for now... when i have to change the brake pads trust me...im going to buy the Ferrodo one

like i do on my STi

chknhawk · 08-21-2014, 02:23 PM

Man this thread is awesome! Since my last miesly post I have upgraded to a custom 40 row tall oil cooler with thermo plate and stoptech cross drilled slotted rotors, "race/street" pads and steel lines (pro kit) taking out a lot of OEM steel line and yes.... Rubber grommets at the rub points... Stance coils and upgrading the OEM camber arms to SPL/SPC whatever big *** camber arms. Looking to put in aftermarket control arms up front and tighten the suspension overall. There on some toyo rcomps as well for racing only. Still just doing autocross but the driving is way better than I ever expected. Will be moving from Kentucky to the new england region (Massachusetts) soon. Hope to get some track time in starting in spring. I am learning so much reading all of this over again from start to finish. Thanks!

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martin82 · 08-21-2014, 02:59 PM

25 row is not enough for track btw, run atleast a 34 row

clintfocus · 08-21-2014, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by martin82

25 row is not enough for track btw, run atleast a 34 row

for some the 34 isnt even enough

carlitos_370z · 08-21-2014, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by martin82

25 row is not enough for track btw, run atleast a 34 row

I have a friend here in PR with the 25 rows in his Nismo and he dont have any issues with the Temp using the 25 rows.... Anyway the heats here are just 5 laps per heat...

But thanks for the tip my friend....

Other thing that i want to install are the sways bars... Any recommendations???

I put my eye on the white lines for now

05-21-2014, 09:05 AM	#184 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	I just ordered the non-premium lines from Z1 at their recommendation. Their reasoning was the connection blocks just add another potential leak point. Made sense to me, not to mention you save a few bucks __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

08-20-2014, 09:11 PM	#188 (permalink)
Arrvaxx A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Whore Island, MN Posts: 1,243 Drives: 40th F.I. Twin Turbo Rep Power: 18	Bumping a great thread. osbornsm and carlitos_370z like this. __________________ 2010 370Z 40th Anniversary (#480 born 1/19/2010) Fast Intentions Twin Turbo \| Varis Arising II \| Limited Edition Recaro Sportster \| Tuned by Specialty Z \| 604hp 525 torque @14lbs boost on 100 octane

08-21-2014, 02:23 PM	#192 (permalink)
chknhawk Track Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Kentucky Posts: 541 Drives: Like a batouttahell! Rep Power: 14	Man this thread is awesome! Since my last miesly post I have upgraded to a custom 40 row tall oil cooler with thermo plate and stoptech cross drilled slotted rotors, "race/street" pads and steel lines (pro kit) taking out a lot of OEM steel line and yes.... Rubber grommets at the rub points... Stance coils and upgrading the OEM camber arms to SPL/SPC whatever big *** camber arms. Looking to put in aftermarket control arms up front and tighten the suspension overall. There on some toyo rcomps as well for racing only. Still just doing autocross but the driving is way better than I ever expected. Will be moving from Kentucky to the new england region (Massachusetts) soon. Hope to get some track time in starting in spring. I am learning so much reading all of this over again from start to finish. Thanks! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2 Rusty, carlitos_370z and Arrvaxx like this. __________________ \| AEM \| INVIDIA \| GREDDY \| STANCE \| NISMO \| SETRAB \| STOPTECH \| HAWK \| TOYO \| HANKOOK \| BRIDE (wishlist) \|

08-21-2014, 02:59 PM	#193 (permalink)
martin82 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: los angeles Posts: 2,636 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 20	25 row is not enough for track btw, run atleast a 34 row carlitos_370z likes this.

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carlitos_370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 7,157 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z SP M6 Rep Power: 7586	I can wait to track my Z... my car is ready... Z1 brake lines, Motul brake fulid, stoptech brake pads and Swift springs...