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Fuel Cutoff
Ok, so I had my first track day today, and honestly, I wasn't impressed with the power delivery at all... I knew I took a risk of going into limp mode a time or two without an oil cooler, but holy crap...
After about 4 laps into my 2nd session, the power cut off when I had the loud pedal floored. I figured it was because it was hitting limp mode, so I sat out for the rest of the session. On my 3rd session, power cut off again and I was starting to take it easy then on a simple acceleration at about 3k RPM, there was a really loud backfire and I'm pretty sure I shot out black smoke. I took a couple seconds to think about it, and I thought about the fuel swishing side to side and the fuel pump not getting access to it, but I was still at 3/4 of a tank, so that wouldn't be the issue, I don't think. The other thing, it was REALLY hot today, about 106F. Was this just limp mode from the scorching heat? Or was this something worse? TYIA! |
Let me guess, it was after a long sweeping right hander? If you were hitting it at the same spot every time, it is fuel starve. Limp mode is overrated
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Actually, it was after a banked left turn the first time and after a series of s-bends the 2nd time.
I saw that fix-it thread too, but I think it would apply more if I had less than 3/4 of a tank, wouldn't it? Again, taking a shot in the dark here lol. It was on Streets of Willow, going counter clockwise, if that helps anything. |
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So how's that overrated in this case. Fuel starve is a possibility I agree. |
Limp mode doesn't make the car hesitate, it just limits your RPM. You can easily lower your oil temp by just shifting 500RPM earlier.
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I thought as soon as it goes into limp mode, it doesn't let you accelerate fast anymore and it just feels like the engine's "holding back"?
After each incident, I didn't push the car anymore, just cruised back to the pits at much lower RPMs, so I don't think I can say if it let me accelerate hard anymore. |
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So nothing really to worry about, right? Cooled it down, blah blah blah, and I'm good?
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All good.. Shortshift like cossie said. Oil cooler!
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Limp mode initially kicks in at 280F and will limit you to 5000rpm, this is usually a good sign to back off a bit. If you drive hard on a stock car you get hit this is as little as 2 laps.
Full on retarded mode kicks in at 300F if you ignored the initial warning. The throttle bodies will not open fully and VVEL will be restricted. I believe you are also limited to somewhere around 3500rpm. And yes you can get fuel starve at 3/4 of a tank, on street tires. But it is normally in right hand turns since the fuel pickup and pump is on the right. |
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, I had the heater on blast and pointed out the window, and I never saw the coolant needle move. Just stayed in the center the whole time.
I'll think about the fuel starvation remedy. I really don't track that much so I have to think about if it's worth it or not at this point. I'm probably not going to go to anymore track days during this hot *** summer. In the winter time if I go and the same thing occurs, then I'll do some better thinking lol. |
Fuel starve isn't a big deal, just keep the car full. If you aren't trying to set track records the extra weight in the back is actually a useful balancing tool.
If you plan to keep tracking I would invest in an oil cooler though. |
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