Preferred Sway Bars for AutoX

gomer_110 · 04-30-2012, 11:35 PM

I'm sure the answer is here somewhere but after reading various threads for the last 2 hours I couldn't seem to find it. I'm looking for a good set of sway bars for to improve the manners of my Nismo at AutoX events. Right now I'm running the stock Nismo tires but there's definitely a chance that by next season I'll get a 2nd set of wheels and some A6's; so I want some sway bars that will play nice with either set up. Also, I don't want to induce anymore understeer than is already present in the Z. And last but not least they must be adjustable. Ride quality on the street is secondary since this is only my "fun" car and not a DD.

And before anyone points it out I know that doing both bars is not allowed in B stock. I'm running ASP since I was stupid and did my headers before realizing how uncompetitive being in ASP would make me.

ChrisSlicks · 05-01-2012, 11:03 AM

The Hotchkis will introduce low speed turn-in understeer if you aren't on race tires and are at a stock like front alignment setting. It you get more camber it can work for street tires.

I little more pricey but I would probably look into the Whiteline. 2 hole front, 3 hole rear.

Stillen is a good option too for short money. 3 hole front, 2 hole rear.

B&W_Evader · 05-01-2012, 11:21 AM

Should give you a comparison... (BTW, WL is whiteline)
Swaybars are next on the list of upgrades for me.

ChrisSlicks · 05-01-2012, 11:50 AM

That's a great comparison, did you make that?

Dwnshift · 05-01-2012, 02:10 PM

We have a set of Hotchkis bars available for purchase....pm if interested.
We ran hotckis frnt...and nismo rear.
Couldnt get enough frnt bar in t car...making or own frnt and rear.
Dwnshift

40thThree7D · 05-01-2012, 03:32 PM

I just installed the Whitelines and the car feels GREAT (with Swift springs). AutoX will be next week

ChrisSlicks · 05-01-2012, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwnshift

We have a set of Hotchkis bars available for purchase....pm if interested.
We ran hotckis frnt...and nismo rear.
Couldnt get enough frnt bar in t car...making or own frnt and rear.

At a certain point aren't you better off just adding more front spring?
The Hotchkis works well in my setup but you need -3.0 degrees of camber minimum, I suspect that you run closer to -5.0.

If the Hotchkis is 3x stiffer what do you plan on designing? 5x?

Dwnshift · 05-01-2012, 04:32 PM

We are only allowed -3 on camber max...running much more than that would really hurt braking and corner entry.
Throwing more front spring just takes away grip at some point.
We were very heavy on t front spring rate already at barber...very soft rear.....next time out it will be an entirely new car. We have completed our front and rear arms as well as suspenion bushings.
We rated the sway bars we were running and and had at the shop ...and going from there....
The new bars are straight tube w dual adjustable blades.

jordan3720 · 05-01-2012, 04:50 PM

I have the eibach F&R and have no gripes about them. Running the Softer setting up front and the middle setting on the rear eliminated almost all understeer. I haven't tried the stiffest rear setting because I'm afraid to induce oversteer upon my already low tread rear tires. I don't know if you care about aesthetics, but the red of the bars goes well with nismos! Good luck in your search.

B&W_Evader · 05-01-2012, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

That's a great comparison, did you make that?

Yep, I put it together. It's been posted a couple of times now. May as well have all the information to make an informed decision. Pricing info is about 2 months old.

gomer_110 · 05-01-2012, 08:35 PM

Thanks for the input everyone. Decided to go with the Eibach kit fwiw.

04-30-2012, 11:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	Preferred Sway Bars for AutoX I'm sure the answer is here somewhere but after reading various threads for the last 2 hours I couldn't seem to find it. I'm looking for a good set of sway bars for to improve the manners of my Nismo at AutoX events. Right now I'm running the stock Nismo tires but there's definitely a chance that by next season I'll get a 2nd set of wheels and some A6's; so I want some sway bars that will play nice with either set up. Also, I don't want to induce anymore understeer than is already present in the Z. And last but not least they must be adjustable. Ride quality on the street is secondary since this is only my "fun" car and not a DD. And before anyone points it out I know that doing both bars is not allowed in B stock. I'm running ASP since I was stupid and did my headers before realizing how uncompetitive being in ASP would make me. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

05-01-2012, 11:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	The Hotchkis will introduce low speed turn-in understeer if you aren't on race tires and are at a stock like front alignment setting. It you get more camber it can work for street tires. I little more pricey but I would probably look into the Whiteline. 2 hole front, 3 hole rear. Stillen is a good option too for short money. 3 hole front, 2 hole rear. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

05-01-2012, 11:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	That's a great comparison, did you make that? __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

05-01-2012, 02:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dwnshift Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cincy Posts: 717 Drives: NISMO 370Z RC Rep Power: 14	We have a set of Hotchkis bars available for purchase....pm if interested. We ran hotckis frnt...and nismo rear. Couldnt get enough frnt bar in t car...making or own frnt and rear. Dwnshift Last edited by Dwnshift; 05-01-2012 at 03:37 PM. Reason: change in wording

05-01-2012, 08:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	Thanks for the input everyone. Decided to go with the Eibach kit fwiw. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

05-01-2012, 03:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
40thThree7D Base Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Rockville MD Posts: 53 Drives: 40th anniversary 370 Rep Power: 15	I just installed the Whitelines and the car feels GREAT (with Swift springs). AutoX will be next week

05-01-2012, 04:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dwnshift Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cincy Posts: 717 Drives: NISMO 370Z RC Rep Power: 14	We are only allowed -3 on camber max...running much more than that would really hurt braking and corner entry. Throwing more front spring just takes away grip at some point. We were very heavy on t front spring rate already at barber...very soft rear.....next time out it will be an entirely new car. We have completed our front and rear arms as well as suspenion bushings. We rated the sway bars we were running and and had at the shop ...and going from there.... The new bars are straight tube w dual adjustable blades.

05-01-2012, 04:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
jordan3720 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 98 Drives: 11 370Z MB S/P Rep Power: 14	I have the eibach F&R and have no gripes about them. Running the Softer setting up front and the middle setting on the rear eliminated almost all understeer. I haven't tried the stiffest rear setting because I'm afraid to induce oversteer upon my already low tread rear tires. I don't know if you care about aesthetics, but the red of the bars goes well with nismos! Good luck in your search.

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