Is the Z faster then it's given credit for?

Methodical4u · 12-11-2011, 02:46 PM

I thought this would be an interesting conversation. Sadly I have to sell my Z because my Fiancee and I are buying a house, so we need the extra payment money... BUT it will always be a car I fondly remember.

However, you watch videos on you tube and such and it always seems like our cars are losing lol. Obviously when you have Evo's Sti's etc or other cars that you expect to pull on a Z such as a new camaro or mustang with well over 400 hp.

I just got to thinking. Though the Z is no slouch stock for stock in the quarter.. it's not really a 1/4 mile car. What category would you put it in? Better track car? Better 1/4 mile car? Better car from a roll?

Thoughts?

Red__Zed · 12-11-2011, 02:48 PM

It is a lot faster than some people give it credit for.

It is also slower than some people give it credit for.

Overall, it is a pretty impressively quick car from the factory. The really fantastic thing about the car is the support for tons of tire.

Methodical4u · 12-11-2011, 03:31 PM

I have to ask because I just don't drive my car hard... I don't race... people who pull up next to me and run off like they're super fast are really just super stupid for wasting their gas and time... meanwhile my car would be running years and years after theirs has blown up. Either way, I think it's a very cool car with a 7500 rpm redline and some run it as high as 8100... not sure if it's safe or not, but coming from 2 Evo's and an MS3 having a turbo is an AWESOME feeling, but having it fall on it's face before 7k sucks too lol.

Red__Zed · 12-11-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u

I have to ask because I just don't drive my car hard... I don't race... people who pull up next to me and run off like they're super fast are really just super stupid for wasting their gas and time... meanwhile my car would be running years and years after theirs has blown up. Either way, I think it's a very cool car with a 7500 rpm redline and some run it as high as 8100... not sure if it's safe or not, but coming from 2 Evo's and an MS3 having a turbo is an AWESOME feeling, but having it fall on it's face before 7k sucks too lol.

that's just a function of the tiny stock turbos being terribly inefficient. My WRX does that too. There's no reason a turbo car can't run up well past 11k.

Methodical4u · 12-11-2011, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

that's just a function of the tiny stock turbos being terribly inefficient. My WRX does that too. There's no reason a turbo car can't run up well past 11k.

My Evo rev limit was upped to 7800... but there was no point because it feel off quite a bit before that.

Red__Zed · 12-11-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u

My Evo rev limit was upped to 7800... but there was no point because it feel off quite a bit before that.

that is because the TD05HA-152G6-12T stock turbo is horribly inefficient at high rpms.

Methodical4u · 12-11-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

that is because the TD05HA-152G6-12T stock turbo is horribly inefficient at high rpms.

Yeah, before I sold my X I was going to go either FPred or green. I just realized though... when would enough be enough? I mean it's just not worth all of the money when most of the power wasn't usable unless it was on a track... and I didn't go to any lol. It's an addiction, but how fast is fast enough I guess it the question... the speed limit here is 55 still.

ImportConvert · 12-12-2011, 09:38 AM

I think the 370z is quick. It's not fast, but its definitely no slouch. Based on my test drives and similarly performing cars I have owned and YouTube vids, the 370z can hold its own and its a drivers race with the new pony cars, with the technical edge going to the new mustang gt. Still, the powerband is very useful. Much moreso than peak dyno numbers suggest. the car reminds me of my fbody/ls1 car in how it applies power.

m4a1mustang · 12-12-2011, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

It is a lot faster than some people give it credit for.

It is also slower than some people give it credit for.

But that is also true of every car ever produced ever.

ImportConvert · 12-12-2011, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

But that is also true of every car ever produced ever.

You think someone out there is underestimating my g20?

m4a1mustang · 12-12-2011, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

You think someone out there is underestimating my g20?

I am sure of it.

Red__Zed · 12-12-2011, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

You think someone out there is underestimating my g20?

Sure. Most people don't really have an objective view of car's performance. I'm sure some guy in redneck America can't wrap his head around a g20 running a sub-30 quarter mile

m4a1mustang · 12-12-2011, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Sure. Most people don't really have an objective view of car's performance. I'm sure some guy in redneck America can't wrap his head around a g20 running a sub-30 quarter mile

Or some educated but still stupid American might overestimate it by thinking it is a summit of 20 of the world's developed nations only to find out it is but just a car.

Red__Zed · 12-12-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Or some educated but still stupid American might overestimate it by thinking it is a summit of 20 of the world's developed nations only to find out it is but just a car.

:|

red6spd · 12-12-2011, 10:00 AM

There is alot of vids on youtube of Z's winning. But you cant really take those vids as a way to gauge how fast the car. If you have a 600hp car it does not mean your gonna be fast. The Z is pretty quick for what it is.

12-11-2011, 02:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
Methodical4u A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,393 Drives: 11 370 6mt pw w/sp Rep Power: 16	Is the Z faster then it's given credit for? I thought this would be an interesting conversation. Sadly I have to sell my Z because my Fiancee and I are buying a house, so we need the extra payment money... BUT it will always be a car I fondly remember. However, you watch videos on you tube and such and it always seems like our cars are losing lol. Obviously when you have Evo's Sti's etc or other cars that you expect to pull on a Z such as a new camaro or mustang with well over 400 hp. I just got to thinking. Though the Z is no slouch stock for stock in the quarter.. it's not really a 1/4 mile car. What category would you put it in? Better track car? Better 1/4 mile car? Better car from a roll? Thoughts?

12-12-2011, 10:00 AM	#15 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	There is alot of vids on youtube of Z's winning. But you cant really take those vids as a way to gauge how fast the car. If you have a 600hp car it does not mean your gonna be fast. The Z is pretty quick for what it is. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

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12-11-2011, 02:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	It is a lot faster than some people give it credit for. It is also slower than some people give it credit for. Overall, it is a pretty impressively quick car from the factory. The really fantastic thing about the car is the support for tons of tire.

12-11-2011, 03:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Methodical4u A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,393 Drives: 11 370 6mt pw w/sp Rep Power: 16	I have to ask because I just don't drive my car hard... I don't race... people who pull up next to me and run off like they're super fast are really just super stupid for wasting their gas and time... meanwhile my car would be running years and years after theirs has blown up. Either way, I think it's a very cool car with a 7500 rpm redline and some run it as high as 8100... not sure if it's safe or not, but coming from 2 Evo's and an MS3 having a turbo is an AWESOME feeling, but having it fall on it's face before 7k sucks too lol.

12-12-2011, 09:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7627	I think the 370z is quick. It's not fast, but its definitely no slouch. Based on my test drives and similarly performing cars I have owned and YouTube vids, the 370z can hold its own and its a drivers race with the new pony cars, with the technical edge going to the new mustang gt. Still, the powerband is very useful. Much moreso than peak dyno numbers suggest. the car reminds me of my fbody/ls1 car in how it applies power.