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Originally Posted by vividracing 2 words. Overhead Cams. Originally Posted by SPOHN What diff cooler are you recommending/ running? I feel I'm not having issues there but I haven't put

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Old 12-16-2011, 08:55 PM   #46 (permalink)
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What diff cooler are you recommending/ running? I feel I'm not having issues there but I haven't put a temp gauge on it either. I'm getting ready to change out my fluid and was pondering with adding Nismo diff cooler cover. And if it's worthy on any level?
curious as well, but I don't think our car is tracked hard enough to warrant a diff cooler, just more frequent fluid changes. I picked up a nismo diff cover, for whatever it's worth, just for the little bit of extra cooling it offers (unfortunately, w/o taking before/after temp readings, not sure how much help it will be doing).
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:13 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I guess I don't understand the Nismo purchase in the first place. You were given a Z06. Why not buy a set of lightweight rims with RComps and make that a track beast on weekends? A Z06 with r-comps will toast any Z you can find.
I had a C6 widebody, both NA at 400rwhp and supercharged 550rwhp, with r-comps. It might have been faster, but it wasn't as fun or rewarding as the Z on track.
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Would this count as a track beast? It was racing at the Continental Tires World Challenge Series race @ Road Atlanta as part of the support series races during the Petit Le Mans weekend. It finished 6th in class, despite not being fully prepped to the limits of the rules. It was prepped for a lower specification in a different series. From what I can remember it had the obvious brakes/oil cooler/ exhaust upgrades. It also had a custom setup for the fuel pump to avoid starvation. I was honestly surprised at how close to stock it was. I would stick to the previous guys posts and upgrade the brakes, add an oil cooler and spend the rest on track time with a good instructor.
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I'm pretty much thinking the same, but I am willing to entertain the questions no matter how hard i find it to believe that the OP has both a C6 and a brand new Z (a NISMO that he bought with his money) and has an extra 20k to spend. If I had been given a Corvette when I was 16 I wouldn't have been going out to get another car. If I had 50k I was going to dump on a car and mods, I would have just dumped the money into the birthday present and have a sick C6.
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I had a C6 widebody, both NA at 400rwhp and supercharged 550rwhp, with r-comps. It might have been faster, but it wasn't as fun or rewarding as the Z on track.
I've heard other people say similar things about the vettes. I guess that after doing track days and watching the vettes smoke me on the Road America straights, I find myself very curious about ownership. I was actually strongly considering swapping the Z for a used 2006 Z06 that a guy in my building owns. I suppose the grass always seems greener, but having a faster car doesn't mean it's more fun to drive. (e.g. a Miata)
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Let's see pics of the Z and Z06...
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I've heard other people say similar things about the vettes. I guess that after doing track days and watching the vettes smoke me on the Road America straights, I find myself very curious about ownership. I was actually strongly considering swapping the Z for a used 2006 Z06 that a guy in my building owns. I suppose the grass always seems greener, but having a faster car doesn't mean it's more fun to drive. (e.g. a Miata)
I have many racing friends with Corvettes, and several of them are Z06's. They destroy me on the straights so I enjoy the challenge of catching them in the braking zones and the corners (running equal tires). On the more technical tracks it is usually a pretty close race lap time wise, but any track with long straights is a killer. Because of the extra speed they are even harder on brakes than we are.
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When we went last year, that was the first time I ever missed my C6 with the supercharger.
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When we went last year, that was the first time I ever missed my C6 with the supercharger.
Well that makes me want the Z06 less knowing that the enjoyment factor leans to the Z in other circumstances. It's just very enticing when you see them rip past on the straights.
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I've heard other people say similar things about the vettes. I guess that after doing track days and watching the vettes smoke me on the Road America straights, I find myself very curious about ownership. I was actually strongly considering swapping the Z for a used 2006 Z06 that a guy in my building owns. I suppose the grass always seems greener, but having a faster car doesn't mean it's more fun to drive. (e.g. a Miata)
The car is not as precise in handling as the Z thanks to the soft suspension and the massive torque off the corner. It actually feels more like the 350 than the 370 in terms of its rawness. Personally, the amount of power freaked me out because I realize the faster you go, the harder you are going to fly off the track if you ever run into that situation....
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Pads + lines + fluid + oil cooler.

Buy a helmet. Sign up for some HPDEs.

Go slowly. Listen to your instructor. LEARN.


Once you get a good feel for the car and become more confident in your abilities you can start evaluating what you would like to do with the car to make it better.
This pretty much sums it up. It's probably surprising to hear someone that makes a living selling parts and services for the 370Z, to say this but it's the absolute truth. The speed will come with experience and training and then we'll of course be ready to sell you all kinds of neat parts. But initially, all that one really needs is a good set of brake pads, brake lines, fluids, and an oil cooler.

Before investing in more equipment, you need to get to the point that your tires are squealing like angry witches pretty much ALL the time you are cornering. Only when you hear the angry witches will you know it's time for better wheels, tires, suspension, and so on.

Let us know if we can help. We are on track somewhere at least once a month in the South East and Mid Atlantic regions.
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^^ love that advice! "squealing like angry witches", classic!
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Pads + lines + fluid + oil cooler.

Buy a helmet. Sign up for some HPDEs.

Go slowly. Listen to your instructor. LEARN.


Once you get a good feel for the car and become more confident in your abilities you can start evaluating what you would like to do with the car to make it better.

Very well said

I had me some angry witches Z Nationals. I had Never driven a track before. The instructor was fantastic. I learned so much. My only upgrades on my Z was Rotora 6/4 BBK, Swift Springs and Sway bars.
I am planing more trick time this year. I watched Sharif flying around the Track. The Man can drive... I am sure I will see you again this year Sharif.
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I've heard other people say similar things about the vettes. I guess that after doing track days and watching the vettes smoke me on the Road America straights, I find myself very curious about ownership. I was actually strongly considering swapping the Z for a used 2006 Z06 that a guy in my building owns. I suppose the grass always seems greener, but having a faster car doesn't mean it's more fun to drive. (e.g. a Miata)
I love my Z06, but I'm trading it for a 370Z. You have some truth in that paragraph.
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