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MightyBobo 11-22-2011 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1419556)
RE: How did the front end slide out? Were you mid-corner, entering the corner, exiting?

At 21:10 in part 2 watch what happens. Maybe a little oil or something. Rubber from the line when wet. I don't know. I didn't mash it at all.

I like the concept of braking a little bit later and later. And yes I do have plenty of room to go faster. I like the way you think. Thanks

Yeah, I watched that and was going to comment about it - if your front tires went out, you'd have simply plowed forward. But you didnt, your rear end started stepping out, and you did a momentary countersteer to the left to correct it. The computer was already doing the magic for you really so you'd have likely been fine, but that definitely looks like your rear end was simply stepping out.

I could see him egging you on to brake later on that one corner (right after 21:35) - I can almost FEEL yourself mentally trying to prepare for it haha. Theres no harm in overshooting it a bit once, but working your way STEADILY to that point is the key :)

Skeeterbop 11-22-2011 09:14 PM

Now you got me wanting to do a track day.

gpolak 11-23-2011 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 1415738)

Is having the high beams on the trick to getting point bys from every one ahead of you? :)

MightyBobo 11-23-2011 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gpolak (Post 1420025)
Is having the high beams on the trick to getting point bys from every one ahead of you? :)

Ughhhhhh. So, my instructor said I shouldnt have been in Beginner (green group) in the first place, but Trackdaze put me there anyway (it was my 3rd full-weekend HPDE). I SHOULD have been put in Novice (Blue) at least. So, beginners tend to be...well, beginning, and they aren't always aware of people on their arse to point by. If the instructor is paying attention he'll tell him, but sometimes even they miss it. High beams (or headlights at least) are a great way to say, "hi, Im right on your arse". Faster cars will tend to do that often to get peoples attention...

*Edit* Psh, now that I see your avatar, you've done HPDE's, you know what its like lol.

ChrisSlicks 11-23-2011 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1419556)
RE: How did the front end slide out? Were you mid-corner, entering the corner, exiting?

At 21:10 in part 2 watch what happens. Maybe a little oil or something. Rubber from the line when wet. I don't know. I didn't mash it at all.

The car in it's stock form has a natural understeer tendency. When you find the limit of traction in a neutral throttle corner like that one you will tend to understeer. In the wet, understeer can result in wheel skip like that. The best thing you is straighten the wheel out a bit and breath off the gas a little (but not a full lift) until the skipping stops. In the wet you learn that traction is different at different parts of the track depending on surface conditions, camber, etc and is sometimes dynamic (raining harder, easing off). Driving at the limit in the rain is an act of exploration :)

cossie1600 11-23-2011 11:42 PM

You get faster lap times by coming off the corners quicker, going in fast and not being able to come out doesn't help

SPOHN 11-24-2011 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by gpolak (Post 1420025)
Is having the high beams on the trick to getting point bys from every one ahead of you? :)

Where exactly did you mount your camera for this view? I have a two day track day this weekend and wanting to mount in many several pplace throughout.

I have a Gopro and was thinking of mounting one shot from the rear window (inside) then just flip the screen in the mode Gopro offers.

Skeeterbop 11-24-2011 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1421782)
Where exactly did you mount your camera for this view? I have a two day track day this weekend and wanting to mount in many several pplace throughout.

I have a Gopro and was thinking of mounting one shot from the rear window (inside) then just flip the screen in the mode Gopro offers.

I tried that position and all I ended up with was a severely over exposed exterior and a perfectly exposed interior.

SPOHN 11-24-2011 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeeterbop (Post 1421791)
I tried that position and all I ended up with was a severely over exposed exterior and a perfectly exposed interior.

That's what I was affraid of for that postion. But there will be planty of guys there I know that can help set me up.

MightyBobo 11-24-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1421794)
That's what I was affraid of for that postion. But there will be planty of guys there I know that can help set me up.

Not many good places inside to stick it. I'd put it on the outside, top/center window or front edge of the roof. Good view of your line there.

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Skeeterbop 11-24-2011 11:30 AM

What I've done is this: I took one of the curved sticky mounts and placed it just off center on the front of my bumper. This way when I mount the camera it is positioned with the lens almost centered on the car. I think it may be off an inch or so but it's obviously not noticed in play back.

SPOHN 11-24-2011 11:58 AM

I just want to get my hands in the vid also. This way I can get more feedback from the instructors.

Skeeterbop 11-24-2011 12:07 PM

How about on the outside of the quarter window? Angle it so that it can see your steering wheel, while at the same time getting the track.

SPOHN 11-24-2011 12:09 PM

Yea I think I've seen that before.

MightyBobo 11-24-2011 02:54 PM

You guys should look into my cheap in-car mount diy.

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