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Tubro 10-21-2011 05:34 PM

Changes to Stock Rules in SOLO
 
Either front or rear sway bar can be changed now in Stock class. What are the implications for the 370? Improved turn-in? Think it makes the car more competitive?

SEB 9/28/11:

ITEM 10) Change 13.7 to read as follows: “13.7 ANTI-ROLL (SWAY) BARS
A. Substitution, addition, or removal of a single anti-roll bar and supporting hardware (brackets, end links, bushings, etc.) is permitted.
B. Substitution, addition, or removal of an anti-roll bar may serve no other purpose than that of an anti-roll bar. C. The use of any bushing material is permitted. A bushing may be implemented as a bearing. D. No modification to the body, frame, or other components to accommodate anti-roll bar addition or substitution
is allowed except for the drilling of holes for mounting bolts. Non-standard lateral members which connect
between the brackets for the bar are not permitted.

http://www.scca.com:8080/assets/11-f...k-nov-solo.pdf

cossie1600 10-21-2011 06:33 PM

Rear sway isn't going to help the car much. If anything, the inner wheel lift is going to be much worse

Tubro 10-21-2011 06:50 PM

What if you put an adjustable sway in the rear that was less stiff that stock, would it help keep the inside tire planted while not inducing understeer?

cossie1600 10-21-2011 06:59 PM

I am not an expert on sway bars, but I believe you would add so much suspension roll that it probably won't help.

Skeeterbop 10-21-2011 07:09 PM

Theoretically If you put a softer bar in the rear or firmer bar in front you are going to get more understeer. Firmer rear or softer front would give you the opposite effect. What that means for the Z i have no clue since i have yet to take it out for autocross.

spearfish25 10-22-2011 12:42 PM

Sway bars make much less of a difference in autocross than the rule book would suggest. Franky, your driving is going to make a much bigger time difference than your sway bar stiffness or settings. Unless you're extremely skilled and competitive, don't worry about it and just focus on improving your lines, braking and momentum.

takjak2 10-23-2011 03:55 PM

I don't see sway bars doing much for the Z34 in stock, but what I wonder about is the new ASP.

cossie1600 10-23-2011 05:58 PM

It helps to put power to the ground, especially when you have giant slicks

ihatepotholes 10-23-2011 08:34 PM

generally speaking thicker and stiffer sway in the rear will help the under steering. however, oversteering is much harder to correct.

Tubro 10-23-2011 09:26 PM

In Stock class with a square set up (which is what is sounds like people run) does the Z35 really understeer? Is it something that requires correction with a (rear) sway?

ihatepotholes 10-23-2011 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tubro (Post 1373491)
In Stock class with a square set up (which is what is sounds like people run) does the Z35 really understeer? Is it something that requires correction with a (rear) sway?

z34? i find it understeers just a tad. i do not think it requires correction with a rear sway. but that's just my preference, i prefer a tad understeer, it's more predictable that way.

cossie1600 10-23-2011 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tubro (Post 1373491)
In Stock class with a square set up (which is what is sounds like people run) does the Z35 really understeer? Is it something that requires correction with a (rear) sway?

Front bar is still more useful than the rear on the Z

Red__Zed 10-23-2011 10:52 PM

rear bar is huge for making the car more neutral. wish this had been in place before.

Shamu 10-23-2011 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1373608)
Front bar is still more useful than the rear on the Z

Absolutely. I had huge improvement with car when I went to 35 mm front bar. My car doesn't understeer but it puts power down much better.

Tubro 10-24-2011 08:10 AM

Sorry definitely meant Z34.

When you guys talk about how much the front sway helps, are you talking about specifically with R comps? Is there a tradeoff wherein the front sway induces noticable understeer during 'spirited' driving on normal tires while not at the track/autocross?


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