Need infos on this toyo r888

mike0983 · 10-15-2011, 05:06 PM

Hi, i can have a good price for the r888 and need your advices.
The size will be 225/40/18 front and 275/35/18 rear on the factory 18'' wheel.

My main interrogation is: will the 275 be ok on the rear 9'' wheels?

And for information, i only going to use this setup on the track, not on the open road.

thanks for your answers and advice.

Shamu · 10-15-2011, 05:58 PM

While not ideal size for 9 it will work. My concern would be related to the significant stagger 225 vs 275. I run 285 r and 265 front R888 as a street setup on my Nismo and I get some understeer.

cossie1600 · 10-15-2011, 06:02 PM

the tires are garbage anyway, they are not really all that effective once you put a few heat cycles on them, just save the money for some real track tires

mike0983 · 10-15-2011, 08:35 PM

cossie1600, i already knew what you think about those r888:-)... but i had them at a really good price (only with this set up 225 vs 275) but it is kind of nothing to loose:-)....

So if you tell me that it will work, i am fine with that....

i will let you know what i think about r888 on the Z even if i think it's going to be fine as i already had them on my honda integer R...

thanks for infos, still welcome on advices with those r888 on our Z...

cossie1600 · 10-15-2011, 09:47 PM

My stock 9" front wheel has 285s on it. I am not concern about fitment, it's more about the car driving like poop. Shamu said it best, you are going to have a car that refuse to turn

mike0983 · 10-16-2011, 07:23 AM

ok,so what should i do, buy some larger for the front, or go smaller at the back??
coz the 4 or 5 track day i did were with the factory yokohama tire (225 vs 245) that come with the 18'' wheels.
In any case it's going to be much better with the r888 setup (225 vs 275) that i told you?? Am i wrong??

thks

cossie1600 · 10-16-2011, 11:13 AM

yeah sell the 225 and get at least some bigger front ones 245 minimum

Shamu · 10-16-2011, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike0983

ok,so what should i do, buy some larger for the front, or go smaller at the back??
coz the 4 or 5 track day i did were with the factory yokohama tire (225 vs 245) that come with the 18'' wheels.
In any case it's going to be much better with the r888 setup (225 vs 275) that i told you?? Am i wrong??

thks

Yes it will be better than street tires. I haven't ever experienced huge drop off cossie has with R 888 after so few heat cycles. We have spec race series here in California where many cars use these tires. If they fell off as much as cossie indicates we would see huge difference in lap times just over a weekend but we dont see that. In fact cars show up several weekends at same tracks without huge drop in times. On an average one and half to 2 minute course we see times on R 888s about 2 seconds off Hoosier R6 (ones of the fastest DOT R tires) Biggest thing with r888 is that they work better higher pressures than other dot r tires.

I don't think your car will drive like poop. Just won't perform quite as good as if you had a 245 up front.

Here is some very experienced advise from racing tire shop that is located on Infineon Raceway. They support many cars and have data on the R888 that goes beyond opinion. Very interesting notes. Especially about limiting rear camber with these tires compared with RA 1.

....RA-1 Vs R-888 + NEW INFO!!!

My biggest complaint about R888 is that they are noisest tire I have ever driven. They sound like truck tires. The Z tends to transmit sound right into the cabin too.

mike0983 · 10-16-2011, 03:08 PM

ok, i have already read all the articles concerning the r888, and i'm shure that for my level of drive it would be FUN enough, my only worries are the set up 225 front with 275 rear and the change of the diameter of my wheel with the toyo.
as it's going to be smaller with the r888 then factory, i will have a drop of my car who is already lowered, i hope to not touch the floor:-))...

No problem for the noise for me, i will only use them on track.
by the way, i will change pads and brake fluid too:-)...

cossie1600 · 10-16-2011, 04:49 PM

I ran through three sets of those R888s when it first came out based on those stupid reviews. I have tried high and low pressure (the article is right about how they love high pressure), they just weren't as fast as the RA1s once you put a few heat cycles on them. There is a reason why Spec Miata guys hate them and Toyo brought back the RA1 in limited sizes due to the grieve they were getting from the drivers. Sure they might be a little faster new, but they do not hold up throughout the life of the tire. Of course at their worst, they are still better than any street tires you buy. From an R comp perspective, I just think they are garbage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamu

Yes it will be better than street tires. I haven't ever experienced huge drop off cossie has with R 888 after so few heat cycles. We have spec race series here in California where many cars use these tires. If they fell off as much as cossie indicates we would see huge difference in lap times just over a weekend but we dont see that. In fact cars show up several weekends at same tracks without huge drop in times. On an average one and half to 2 minute course we see times on R 888s about 2 seconds off Hoosier R6 (ones of the fastest DOT R tires) Biggest thing with r888 is that they work better higher pressures than other dot r tires.

I don't think your car will drive like poop. Just won't perform quite as good as if you had a 245 up front.

Here is some very experienced advise from racing tire shop that is located on Infineon Raceway. They support many cars and have data on the R888 that goes beyond opinion. Very interesting notes. Especially about limiting rear camber with these tires compared with RA 1.

....RA-1 Vs R-888 + NEW INFO!!!

My biggest complaint about R888 is that they are noisest tire I have ever driven. They sound like truck tires. The Z tends to transmit sound right into the cabin too.

wh1te370z · 10-19-2011, 10:20 AM

Buy my square set up on 275 Hankooks

cossie1600 · 10-19-2011, 02:03 PM

shipping might suck a little for switzerland...

what are u getting now?

wh1te370z · 10-19-2011, 02:15 PM

sold the car

buying a truck and building a low budget race car and saving for a house... being a grown up

cossie1600 · 10-19-2011, 02:22 PM

booo....but good call. if someone gives me enough $, i would sell the car today too

wh1te370z · 10-19-2011, 02:26 PM

got $27 with 25k on the clock. kids coming saturday.

10-15-2011, 05:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
mike0983 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Switzerland Posts: 55 Drives: 370z white, 2010,MT Rep Power: 15	Need infos on this toyo r888 Hi, i can have a good price for the r888 and need your advices. The size will be 225/40/18 front and 275/35/18 rear on the factory 18'' wheel. My main interrogation is: will the 275 be ok on the rear 9'' wheels? And for information, i only going to use this setup on the track, not on the open road. thanks for your answers and advice.

10-19-2011, 10:20 AM	#11 (permalink)
wh1te370z Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York, Long Island Posts: 559 Drives: PW Base Sport 6 Spd Rep Power: 16	Buy my square set up on 275 Hankooks __________________ 1998 BMW 328is... Track Build 2010 White 370z.... sold

10-19-2011, 02:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
wh1te370z Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York, Long Island Posts: 559 Drives: PW Base Sport 6 Spd Rep Power: 16	sold the car buying a truck and building a low budget race car and saving for a house... being a grown up __________________ 1998 BMW 328is... Track Build 2010 White 370z.... sold

10-19-2011, 02:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
wh1te370z Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York, Long Island Posts: 559 Drives: PW Base Sport 6 Spd Rep Power: 16	got $27 with 25k on the clock. kids coming saturday. __________________ 1998 BMW 328is... Track Build 2010 White 370z.... sold

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10-15-2011, 05:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 19	While not ideal size for 9 it will work. My concern would be related to the significant stagger 225 vs 275. I run 285 r and 265 front R888 as a street setup on my Nismo and I get some understeer.

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	the tires are garbage anyway, they are not really all that effective once you put a few heat cycles on them, just save the money for some real track tires

10-15-2011, 08:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
mike0983 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Switzerland Posts: 55 Drives: 370z white, 2010,MT Rep Power: 15	cossie1600, i already knew what you think about those r888:-)... but i had them at a really good price (only with this set up 225 vs 275) but it is kind of nothing to loose:-).... So if you tell me that it will work, i am fine with that.... i will let you know what i think about r888 on the Z even if i think it's going to be fine as i already had them on my honda integer R... thanks for infos, still welcome on advices with those r888 on our Z...

10-15-2011, 09:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	My stock 9" front wheel has 285s on it. I am not concern about fitment, it's more about the car driving like poop. Shamu said it best, you are going to have a car that refuse to turn

10-16-2011, 07:23 AM	#6 (permalink)
mike0983 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Switzerland Posts: 55 Drives: 370z white, 2010,MT Rep Power: 15	ok,so what should i do, buy some larger for the front, or go smaller at the back?? coz the 4 or 5 track day i did were with the factory yokohama tire (225 vs 245) that come with the 18'' wheels. In any case it's going to be much better with the r888 setup (225 vs 275) that i told you?? Am i wrong?? thks

10-16-2011, 11:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	yeah sell the 225 and get at least some bigger front ones 245 minimum

10-16-2011, 03:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
mike0983 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Switzerland Posts: 55 Drives: 370z white, 2010,MT Rep Power: 15	ok, i have already read all the articles concerning the r888, and i'm shure that for my level of drive it would be FUN enough, my only worries are the set up 225 front with 275 rear and the change of the diameter of my wheel with the toyo. as it's going to be smaller with the r888 then factory, i will have a drop of my car who is already lowered, i hope to not touch the floor:-))... No problem for the noise for me, i will only use them on track. by the way, i will change pads and brake fluid too:-)...

10-19-2011, 02:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	shipping might suck a little for switzerland... what are u getting now?

10-19-2011, 02:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	booo....but good call. if someone gives me enough $, i would sell the car today too