Spohn's First track Day

wstar · 09-27-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

don't run it unless they go counterclosewise

Good point! At least, until phunk's fuel-starve solution comes out

SPOHN · 09-27-2011, 11:54 AM

I'm going to track again in Nov. and more next year so I'll be interested in Phunks fuel canister.

daisuke149 · 09-27-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

I'm going to track again in Nov. and more next year so I'll be interested in Phunks fuel canister.

who all you going with pm me a link.

SPOHN · 09-27-2011, 12:52 PM

I'm going threw Chin Motorsports in Nov. The weekend just after Thanksgiving. It's a two day event. You have to sign up for a 13 month annual fee for $50. Then you have access to several different tracks throughout the year. Which is a lot. Most events are two days but some are one. There about $550 a weekend plus instructor fee. I'm going to have Sharif instruct me there. I just signed up yesterday. Can't sign for the track Fay until next Monday.

Also FYI I just bought a wing 20 mins ago. Awesome.

ChrisSlicks · 09-27-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

I'm going threw Chin Motorsports in Nov. The weekend just after Thanksgiving. It's a two day event. You have to sign up for a 13 month annual fee for $50. Then you have access to several different tracks throughout the year. Which is a lot. Most events are two days but some are one. There about $550 a weekend plus instructor fee. I'm going to have Sharif instruct me there. I just signed up yesterday. Can't sign for the track Fay until next Monday.

Also FYI I just bought a wing 20 mins ago. Awesome.

Their pricing seems pretty high, but they are limiting the number of cars. $600 a weekend.

I don't know if I approve of your wing purchase at this point. That's something you usually do when you've found yourself exceeding the limit of high speed traction. If it was for cosmetic purposes then that is fair enough.

cossie1600 · 09-27-2011, 01:37 PM

Wings=500hp!

SPOHN · 09-27-2011, 02:10 PM

I'm not going to lie that is one of my other reasons but it does serve the purpose. I plan on doing a good amount of tracking and I want to be ready. Its not a hugh wing. Just a APR GTC 200. My car doesn't even have a spoiler so I need something back there and what better than a wing that serves a function for my future events. Mostly I'll be going to Road Atlanta.

Yea they do limit the number of drivers so you have more time on the track. Plus they have great instructors.

daisuke149 · 09-27-2011, 02:22 PM

damn chris i was just looking at those last night. Ill call you later.

SPOHN · 09-27-2011, 02:25 PM

Ok bro

wstar · 09-27-2011, 02:47 PM

Ah your car started out as non-sport? Be interesting to see how much difference you see at the track with the wing in any case, both in terms of better grip in places, and any slowdowns from the extra drag.

ChrisSlicks · 09-27-2011, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

I'm not going to lie that is one of my other reasons but it does serve the purpose. I plan on doing a good amount of tracking and I want to be ready. Its not a hugh wing. Just a APR GTC 200. My car doesn't even have a spoiler so I need something back there and what better than a wing that serves a function for my future events. Mostly I'll be going to Road Atlanta.

Fair enough. Just remember a wing adds downforce but it also adds drag and will reduce you max speed on the straights. Avoid the temptation to try and set it to the highest setting, set it conservative and see what happens. Wings are a balancing act of high speed corner performance vs straight away performance.

I know quite a few people that successfully run the APR wings, but I've also seen one catastrophically fail at 150 mph in a high HP car. With the Z's limited HP you'll be fine.

wstar · 09-27-2011, 03:04 PM

When you say "catastrophically fail", do you mean some kind of airflow problem that resulted in a sudden loss of downforce at a critical time? Or do you mean the downforce broke/detached the wing itself (which I guess would cause a pretty sudden loss of downforce too)?

SPOHN · 09-27-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

Fair enough. Just remember a wing adds downforce but it also adds drag and will reduce you max speed on the straights. Avoid the temptation to try and set it to the highest setting, set it conservative and see what happens. Wings are a balancing act of high speed corner performance vs straight away performance.

I know quite a few people that successfully run the APR wings, but I've also seen one catastrophically fail at 150 mph in a high HP car. With the Z's limited HP you'll be fine.

Thanks for looking out. Rep to yea. I have already talked to Mike about it and where to set it. He has his set to the lowest also.

ChrisSlicks · 09-27-2011, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar

When you say "catastrophically fail", do you mean some kind of airflow problem that resulted in a sudden loss of downforce at a critical time? Or do you mean the downforce broke/detached the wing itself (which I guess would cause a pretty sudden loss of downforce too)?

The extreme downforce on the wing at high speed at the highest setting caused a structural failure of the wing support. The wing was simply being pushed beyond it's design capabilities. The end result was a sudden loss of downforce as the wing detached and a heavy crash. Fortunately the car was caged and the driver was uninjured. He even has it on video

When you add more HP to a stock car this is something to be considered.

cossie1600 · 09-27-2011, 04:51 PM

do a search on wing damage sti vir on youtube. the guy snapped his wing and stuffed it into the wall.

09-27-2011, 11:54 AM	#32 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	I'm going to track again in Nov. and more next year so I'll be interested in Phunks fuel canister. __________________

09-27-2011, 12:52 PM	#34 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	I'm going threw Chin Motorsports in Nov. The weekend just after Thanksgiving. It's a two day event. You have to sign up for a 13 month annual fee for $50. Then you have access to several different tracks throughout the year. Which is a lot. Most events are two days but some are one. There about $550 a weekend plus instructor fee. I'm going to have Sharif instruct me there. I just signed up yesterday. Can't sign for the track Fay until next Monday. Also FYI I just bought a wing 20 mins ago. Awesome. __________________

09-27-2011, 02:10 PM	#37 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	I'm not going to lie that is one of my other reasons but it does serve the purpose. I plan on doing a good amount of tracking and I want to be ready. Its not a hugh wing. Just a APR GTC 200. My car doesn't even have a spoiler so I need something back there and what better than a wing that serves a function for my future events. Mostly I'll be going to Road Atlanta. Yea they do limit the number of drivers so you have more time on the track. Plus they have great instructors. __________________ Last edited by SPOHN; 09-27-2011 at 02:47 PM.

09-27-2011, 02:25 PM	#39 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	Ok bro __________________

09-27-2011, 02:47 PM	#40 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	Ah your car started out as non-sport? Be interesting to see how much difference you see at the track with the wing in any case, both in terms of better grip in places, and any slowdowns from the extra drag. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

09-27-2011, 01:37 PM	#36 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	Wings=500hp!

09-27-2011, 02:22 PM	#38 (permalink)
daisuke149 My *** is famous! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 4,849 Drives: 2013 Boss 302 PW Rep Power: 31	damn chris i was just looking at those last night. Ill call you later.

09-27-2011, 03:04 PM	#42 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	When you say "catastrophically fail", do you mean some kind of airflow problem that resulted in a sudden loss of downforce at a critical time? Or do you mean the downforce broke/detached the wing itself (which I guess would cause a pretty sudden loss of downforce too)? __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

09-27-2011, 04:51 PM	#45 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	do a search on wing damage sti vir on youtube. the guy snapped his wing and stuffed it into the wall.

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