Nissan 370Z Forum  

Does anyone feel high 11's NA are possible with the 370?

Originally Posted by Red__Zed Speaking as a guy who has previously done a stroker kit on an FI motor, I don't know why you would. Internal engine work is expensive

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Track / Autocross / Drifting / Dragstrip


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-08-2011, 01:35 AM   #46 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Brazilbro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 1,131
Drives: Juke/240Z
Rep Power: 848
Brazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed View Post
Speaking as a guy who has previously done a stroker kit on an FI motor, I don't know why you would. Internal engine work is expensive and a pain, and the gains are usually relatively small. You may get more durability, you may get less reliability--you don't really know. There aren't exactly a ton of cars running around with that kit, which doesn't provide me with a whole lot of comfort.
I have to agree on that. I thought I would want to build my engine and turn the boost up but really going over 550whp on this platform is going backwards. I think going over that and you just lose the drivability of the car. If you want a car with over 500-550whp then make sure its AWD or its just a waste.
__________________
Juke AWD/240Z SR20
08 Evo 10(Stage 2) SOLD
Fastest Sport 6spd 370Z 11.8 @126.5SOLD
Brazilbro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2011, 01:47 AM   #47 (permalink)
WFLYIDNNE
 
XwChriswX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: In The Fastlane
Posts: 50,648
Drives: 02 GDB WRX
Rep Power: 452
XwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brazilbro View Post
I have to agree on that. I thought I would want to build my engine and turn the boost up but really going over 550whp on this platform is going backwards. I think going over that and you just lose the drivability of the car. If you want a car with over 500-550whp then make sure its AWD or its just a waste.
Exactly, what good is 650+WHP if you can't even get the wheels to stick? You just make for a good smoke cloud.

Give me streetable power any day.
__________________

Bonnie - Stage 2, Audio build coming this fall!
R.I.P. Abby 3/29/10 - 3/30/14
XwChriswX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 08:52 AM   #48 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
JC671's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Guam
Posts: 451
Drives: Toretto around
Rep Power: 14
JC671 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brazilbro View Post
I have to agree on that. I thought I would want to build my engine and turn the boost up but really going over 550whp on this platform is going backwards. I think going over that and you just lose the drivability of the car. If you want a car with over 500-550whp then make sure its AWD or its just a waste.
Quote:
Originally Posted by XwChriswX View Post
Exactly, what good is 650+WHP if you can't even get the wheels to stick? You just make for a good smoke cloud.

Give me streetable power any day.

Thats not true.. are you talking about the RWD platform? Or just the Z period?


Because of your talking about traction issues with RWD being the problem then what about all those 600-1000whp supras and or mustangs?


The Z is by far the hardest RWD car I have had problems launching with. Its so hard being consistent with this car as he never bites the same way for some reason. Low end .... yes spinning will be is issue with any FWD or RWD car but on the freeway top end.....

If I could do it again.... I'd get an Evo X but I just didn't want another 4 banger
__________________

A special "Thank You" to the Fast Intentions Crew!
"Fueled By Passion"
JC671 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 10:42 AM   #49 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,668
Drives: 370
Rep Power: 974723
phunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brazilbro View Post
I have to agree on that. I thought I would want to build my engine and turn the boost up but really going over 550whp on this platform is going backwards. I think going over that and you just lose the drivability of the car. If you want a car with over 500-550whp then make sure its AWD or its just a waste.
just ramp in the boost!!! very common practice, boost climbs as speed climbs! 1st gear 450rwhp is totaly useable, 2nd gear 500 is good, and so on

also, properly align your car, it makes all the difference! Take out all the camber in the back so it can hook up. I dont track my car so I dont notice any difference in handling all though I will say it looks stupid with no camber in the rear. I have considered a dual alignment, by putting marks on the adjustable arms at 2 alignment specs so I can roll under there and change it back and forth in 10 min any time i want.
__________________
Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube
Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph
phunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 01:19 PM   #50 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,393
Drives: 11 370 6mt pw w/sp
Rep Power: 16
Methodical4u is a jewel in the roughMethodical4u is a jewel in the roughMethodical4u is a jewel in the roughMethodical4u is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JC671 View Post
Thats not true.. are you talking about the RWD platform? Or just the Z period?


Because of your talking about traction issues with RWD being the problem then what about all those 600-1000whp supras and or mustangs?


The Z is by far the hardest RWD car I have had problems launching with. Its so hard being consistent with this car as he never bites the same way for some reason. Low end .... yes spinning will be is issue with any FWD or RWD car but on the freeway top end.....

If I could do it again.... I'd get an Evo X but I just didn't want another 4 banger
Had it... it was a lot of fun, but the cheapness of the inside of the car REALLY wears on you after a while. The Z is SOOOOO much nicer inside and just in general.... and a lot of the people who are running the 600-1000 whp set-ups many times are just doing it to see how much power they can get, or they are going in straight lines... which takes all the fun out of what the Z was actually made for.

The same goes for the Evo's... really 350 whp on an Evo is MORE than enough to find a nice track and just get through all of the twists and just in general use the car for what it was intended.

Having a TT Z is cool no doubt, but at the end of the day, it's just to say you have a TT Z that runs 10's or 11's... ok now what? Don't people get tired of just going in a straight line after a while?
Methodical4u is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 01:22 PM   #51 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,393
Drives: 11 370 6mt pw w/sp
Rep Power: 16
Methodical4u is a jewel in the roughMethodical4u is a jewel in the roughMethodical4u is a jewel in the roughMethodical4u is a jewel in the rough
Default

Anyway, I just wanted to find out if with the current mods out there if the car would run 11's totally NA... if it won't, no big deal. I much more enjoy feeling the handling of the car with a little extra power.
Methodical4u is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 02:04 PM   #52 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
V8Killer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Newport, NC
Posts: 1,127
Drives: It Hard Till It Pops
Rep Power: 16
V8Killer is on a distinguished road
Default

[QUOTE=Methodical4u;1305476
Having a TT Z is cool no doubt, but at the end of the day, it's just to say you have a TT Z that runs 10's or 11's... ok now what? Don't people get tired of just going in a straight line after a while?[/QUOTE]

IMO I don't get tired of it. The purpose of the thread is to see how fast you can go in the 1/4. I like the track b/c it's safer,cheaper,and legal to see what our cars can do. I hope we do get our car into the 11's one day, hey you never know it could be me that does it.
__________________
"Punch"

Too much to list and a baby shot of nitrous....
V8Killer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 02:50 PM   #53 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,393
Drives: 11 370 6mt pw w/sp
Rep Power: 16
Methodical4u is a jewel in the roughMethodical4u is a jewel in the roughMethodical4u is a jewel in the roughMethodical4u is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by V8Killer View Post
IMO I don't get tired of it. The purpose of the thread is to see how fast you can go in the 1/4. I like the track b/c it's safer,cheaper,and legal to see what our cars can do. I hope we do get our car into the 11's one day, hey you never know it could be me that does it.
I thought you said you had never run the 1/4 before?
Methodical4u is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 07:03 PM   #54 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
V8Killer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Newport, NC
Posts: 1,127
Drives: It Hard Till It Pops
Rep Power: 16
V8Killer is on a distinguished road
Default

Only twice ever in my life and it was my 370zfavor that I did it in. Stock on stock tires, 13.4 at 105. With a shitty 60fter.
__________________
"Punch"

Too much to list and a baby shot of nitrous....
V8Killer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2011, 09:55 PM   #55 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
SharpByCoop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 286
Drives: '08 G37S - Graphite
Rep Power: 15
SharpByCoop is a glorious beacon of lightSharpByCoop is a glorious beacon of lightSharpByCoop is a glorious beacon of lightSharpByCoop is a glorious beacon of lightSharpByCoop is a glorious beacon of lightSharpByCoop is a glorious beacon of light
Default

All 'records' will eventually be broken. I've been in drag racing since forever, and there are real limitations usually constricted by current technology, but more significantly, by not thinking or experimenting out of the box.

9 times out of 10 the guys who create new standards look at aspects no one else has explored.

Let's drag this thread up someday in the near future and have a laugh!

Coop
__________________
Jim Cooper - (Retired: '08 Infiniti G37 Sport • TheShopCT built • 11.13 @ 123 mph (click for vid) • GTM Stage II Twin Turbo • 5-speed A/T Level Ten built • 591whp @17 lbs boost)
SharpByCoop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2011, 07:08 PM   #56 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
tranceformer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 1,213
Drives: 2009 370Z PW 6MT
Rep Power: 267
tranceformer has a reputation beyond reputetranceformer has a reputation beyond reputetranceformer has a reputation beyond reputetranceformer has a reputation beyond reputetranceformer has a reputation beyond reputetranceformer has a reputation beyond reputetranceformer has a reputation beyond reputetranceformer has a reputation beyond reputetranceformer has a reputation beyond reputetranceformer has a reputation beyond reputetranceformer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 98intrigue View Post
I'm pretty sure he was on RE-11s and pulled a 1.89 60'? Drag radials on an NA car with minimal power won't get much better than that 60'.
IIRC he pulled as low as 1.80 on his 12.24 pass. And he did that w/ a busted rear diff mount too.

The best I've pulled is 1.86 w/ the stock potenzas. But soon I'll have a set of RE-11's, just in time for winter.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed View Post
Pretty unlikely
I would have to agree. There isn't too much more he can do to his car to make it faster. Maybe one or two more modifications but not enough to run 11.9xx IMO.
__________________
Ray
2009 370Z Base Sport 6MT / 12.860 @ 109.09mph / 1.921 60ft / street tires
official 1/4 mile track times
tranceformer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Should I get Bridgestone RE-11's or Nitto NT-05's? atropine Wheels & Tires 41 07-08-2011 03:13 PM
Bridestone RE-11's for 19inch Rays V8Killer Wheels & Tires 4 06-25-2011 12:51 PM
Just got New RE-11's...Quick Question joestew1985 Wheels & Tires 9 06-13-2011 02:58 PM
RE-11's mounted, but WTF? FastJew Wheels & Tires 86 05-07-2011 02:54 PM
Bridgestone RE-11's mounted ChrisSlicks Wheels & Tires 29 06-09-2009 07:55 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2