oil temps too low/ too much oil??

tonythetiger · 08-01-2011, 02:49 PM

So i installed my z1 25row oil cooler yesterday, and this morning i checked oil level with dipstick and showed that the oil was waayy over h line, i started it up, drove to work (15min drive/ outside temps at 82F), and checked again for oil levels. It was slightly lower than H line. is this suppose to be normal??
also oil temps never reached up to 180F, didnt push the car at all, should i be worried about this change or is the oil cooler doin an awesome job?
before i got the oil cooler i was running around 200F-220F

tonythetiger · 08-01-2011, 02:50 PM

i also added roughly close to 6 1/2 quarts of M1

red6spd · 08-01-2011, 03:27 PM

Does it have the thermostatic restricter plate??

spearfish25 · 08-01-2011, 03:51 PM

In which orientation did you install the oil cooler? If the fittings are down, the oil will back flow into the oil sump and the dipstick level is worthless. If you installed the cooler with the fittings up, the oil will not back flow and the dipstick is accurate. In that case, you're overfilled and should remove some oil (oil extractor is the easiest way). Most people say 6qts exactly is 'right' for a 25row oil cooler installation.

Your oil cooler is just doing its job. Even if you have a thermostatic plate, your oil temps may be too low if the weather is cool/cold (oil will never get to 180F). You can deal with this by making a cover for the cooler. See my DIY in the DIY section. You do not want your oil overcooled. I've found that ambient temps under about 65F are best served with the cooler cover in place unless I'm going to be driving hard or on track.

tonythetiger · 08-01-2011, 11:23 PM

it does have a thermostatic plate, i installed the fittings at top of oil cooler

i just finished taking out 3/4 quart of oil today, drove it around, checked dipstick and its right below the H mark. but now i noticed a small leak around the fittings on oil cooler so i went ahead and double check on tightening the hose clamps. everything seems tight, i must've not added a seal tape on those adapter fittings or there was just too much oil which caused a lot of pressure for the leakage. ill just have to keep on checking the dipstick everyday and hopefully everything runs smoothly for track day this friday. thanks for info!

SPOHN · 08-01-2011, 11:35 PM

I added about 6.3 with my 34R. The 34R took almost 1 quart by itself for I filled it by itself before adding the lines. Then filled the car with 5 quarts. The .3 was for the lines and filter. Dead on in my case.

tonythetiger · 08-01-2011, 11:55 PM

kool thanks for info! i should def stick to just 6 quarts, when doing oil changes will i need to disassemble oil cooler and drain out oil from cooler/hoses??

08-01-2011, 02:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
tonythetiger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SA, TX Posts: 1,035 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z PG MT Rep Power: 193	oil temps too low/ too much oil?? So i installed my z1 25row oil cooler yesterday, and this morning i checked oil level with dipstick and showed that the oil was waayy over h line, i started it up, drove to work (15min drive/ outside temps at 82F), and checked again for oil levels. It was slightly lower than H line. is this suppose to be normal?? also oil temps never reached up to 180F, didnt push the car at all, should i be worried about this change or is the oil cooler doin an awesome job? before i got the oil cooler i was running around 200F-220F __________________ KWV3/Eibach/StillenG3/FI CBE+LTH+34Row/Uprev/SPL/SouthBendSS/QuaifeLSD/4.08/TommyKaira/Status/VolkZE40/AP Radical BBK/Seibon/Amuse/VIS/Sparco/WorksBellGTC/RJM/Nismo

08-01-2011, 02:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
tonythetiger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SA, TX Posts: 1,035 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z PG MT Rep Power: 193	i also added roughly close to 6 1/2 quarts of M1 __________________ KWV3/Eibach/StillenG3/FI CBE+LTH+34Row/Uprev/SPL/SouthBendSS/QuaifeLSD/4.08/TommyKaira/Status/VolkZE40/AP Radical BBK/Seibon/Amuse/VIS/Sparco/WorksBellGTC/RJM/Nismo

08-01-2011, 03:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	Does it have the thermostatic restricter plate?? __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

08-01-2011, 03:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	In which orientation did you install the oil cooler? If the fittings are down, the oil will back flow into the oil sump and the dipstick level is worthless. If you installed the cooler with the fittings up, the oil will not back flow and the dipstick is accurate. In that case, you're overfilled and should remove some oil (oil extractor is the easiest way). Most people say 6qts exactly is 'right' for a 25row oil cooler installation. Your oil cooler is just doing its job. Even if you have a thermostatic plate, your oil temps may be too low if the weather is cool/cold (oil will never get to 180F). You can deal with this by making a cover for the cooler. See my DIY in the DIY section. You do not want your oil overcooled. I've found that ambient temps under about 65F are best served with the cooler cover in place unless I'm going to be driving hard or on track. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

08-01-2011, 11:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
tonythetiger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SA, TX Posts: 1,035 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z PG MT Rep Power: 193	it does have a thermostatic plate, i installed the fittings at top of oil cooler i just finished taking out 3/4 quart of oil today, drove it around, checked dipstick and its right below the H mark. but now i noticed a small leak around the fittings on oil cooler so i went ahead and double check on tightening the hose clamps. everything seems tight, i must've not added a seal tape on those adapter fittings or there was just too much oil which caused a lot of pressure for the leakage. ill just have to keep on checking the dipstick everyday and hopefully everything runs smoothly for track day this friday. thanks for info! __________________ KWV3/Eibach/StillenG3/FI CBE+LTH+34Row/Uprev/SPL/SouthBendSS/QuaifeLSD/4.08/TommyKaira/Status/VolkZE40/AP Radical BBK/Seibon/Amuse/VIS/Sparco/WorksBellGTC/RJM/Nismo

08-01-2011, 11:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	I added about 6.3 with my 34R. The 34R took almost 1 quart by itself for I filled it by itself before adding the lines. Then filled the car with 5 quarts. The .3 was for the lines and filter. Dead on in my case. __________________ Last edited by SPOHN; 08-01-2011 at 11:39 PM.

08-01-2011, 11:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
tonythetiger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SA, TX Posts: 1,035 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z PG MT Rep Power: 193	kool thanks for info! i should def stick to just 6 quarts, when doing oil changes will i need to disassemble oil cooler and drain out oil from cooler/hoses?? __________________ KWV3/Eibach/StillenG3/FI CBE+LTH+34Row/Uprev/SPL/SouthBendSS/QuaifeLSD/4.08/TommyKaira/Status/VolkZE40/AP Radical BBK/Seibon/Amuse/VIS/Sparco/WorksBellGTC/RJM/Nismo

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