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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang Low 12s on minimal mods... I wouldn't say that. Jnaut had a bit more than "minimal." Oh, and the Z does have cams. The Z has

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Old 10-11-2011, 04:01 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Low 12s on minimal mods... I wouldn't say that. Jnaut had a bit more than "minimal."

Oh, and the Z does have cams.
The Z has cams? What cams?
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The Z has cams? What cams?
VVEL controls the intake valves and conventional cams control the exhaust valves.
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The Z has cams? What cams?
They have cams - the exhaust cam, like M4A1 said, is a typical cam. The intake cam is obviously far more sophisticated...but could potentially still be changed out...
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VVEL controls the intake valves and conventional cams control the exhaust valves.
You said the Z has cams... what I took was that it has aftermarket cams which none that I know of are out for it as of now.

That was my point that jnaut couldn't have had cams on his 12.24 run since there are none in existance for the Z and VVEL has not been cracked. Perhaps I am misunderstanding your points.
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I think there was a little bit of confusion on both parts. I thought you were implying that the stock 370Z in general does not have any cams and that VVEL controlled everything.
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I think there was a little bit of confusion on both parts. I thought you were implying that the stock 370Z in general does not have any cams and that VVEL controlled everything.
no, i'm saying that now you can get cams for most motors and they do add quite a bit of power.

The Z however does not have them out yet. The current Camaro we are comparing the Z to does have it, which helps with the power... and that for a V6 vs. a V8 with mods done that being able to beat a Z isn't really saying that much considering that all we have basically is all air mods, yet we aren't even talking this car running more than 3-4 tenths faster with equal drivers... and some may argue the Z could still win. A track is based more on conditions, driver, etc etc than on what it could actually do on paper... which is the reason we race.

I myself am not a big fan of 1/4 racing. It's nice to see what a car will do with certain mods... etc... but I just use that as a gauge. I would much rather use the Z for what it was intended for. Much like the 2 Evo's I owned Prior to this car and so many people could run good 1/4 times, but the car wasn't made for that. It's fun sure, but for me personally, doing some road racing would be much more fun.
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I'm a fanboy? I've owned 2 Evo's ... 1 of which would have stomped either of the cars in this thread son... don't speak until you know what you're talking about. Maybe you like to hang on the of LS1 drivers... that's your thing. A straight line is fine until we come up on a few turns too. Like I said before... why don't they do a 1/4 and then a road track and see how things pan out?

Oh and by the way... we have no cams... we haven't even cracked the VVEL and are running low 12's with minimal mods and you're actually comparing this to a V8? Not to mention a V8 that EVERYONE and they Mother has... the Z is a better looking, better quality and overall better car than many of those domestic POS cars.
What a bunch of bs. Everyone here knows you talk outta you ***. Take your ricer math else where. You think you are the only person who has owned an evo? Go read my posts on evom or my350z. Im done wasting my time on a keyboard warrior like you.
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Man my thread has gone crazy!! LOL. Just an update I am back overseas and we didn't get to line up with the way the weather was being at the track. The problem I had at home was wheel hop then I threw on the drs which did help some but not a whole lot. My best trap speed was 107.8 and best time was a 13.2 by my buddy so I will have to do some suspension mods to see if it will help. I do have the differential bushings but didn't get a chance to put them on before I left. Maybe in the months to come while I am gone they will crack the vvel and we can see some better times at the track for our Zs.
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What a bunch of bs. Everyone here knows you talk outta you ***. Take your ricer math else where. You think you are the only person who has owned an evo? Go read my posts on evom or my350z. Im done wasting my time on a keyboard warrior like you.
lmao... you mad?
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lmao... you mad?
no but idiot ricers like you make the rest of us look bad

op are you going to install the 4.08 gear
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no but idiot ricers like you make the rest of us look bad

op are you going to install the 4.08 gear
i'm an idiot ricer because I put numbers out there? Don't ask about gear ratios then... that's ricer math I'm sorry if you are mad though... can we be friends now?
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What a bunch of bs. Everyone here knows you talk outta you ***. Take your ricer math else where. You think you are the only person who has owned an evo? Go read my posts on evom or my350z. Im done wasting my time on a keyboard warrior like you.
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i'm an idiot ricer because I put numbers out there? Don't ask about gear ratios then... that's ricer math I'm sorry if you are mad though... can we be friends now?
what do numbers mean in a race?

asking about gears is ricer math? im not sitting here talking about what this mod or that mod adding X amount of whp to a certain car. you claimed that i don't know anything, but judging by your posts you are nothing but a ricer and a bench racer. what's your username on evom? maybe i should check out your insanely fast evos.

yea sure, we can be friends

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