Need some help for a Z vs 2000 Camaro showdown

wh1te370z

If the camaro is running DR on a stock 10 bolt he's running a huge chance of blowing his rear. My buddy went though 3 rear ends in a matter of 1.5 years and that was in a 3rd gen with a 305 making like a little over 200 hp.

V8Killer do u know all the mods the camaro has done to it?

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2010 White 370z.... sold

V8Killer

All I know is a baby cam and a corsa exhaust. I can get more specifics from my buddy.

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"Punch"

Too much to list and a baby shot of nitrous....

Methodical4u

ok, i'm guessing it's an SS? I'm not sure... so here's the specs in case no one knows about them...

Engine Type aluminum alloy pushrod overhead
valve 16-valve V8
Engine Size 5.7 liters / 346 cu. in.
Horsepower 320 @ 5200 rpm
Torque (lb-ft) 345 @ 4400 rpm
Transmission 6-speed manual
Wheelbase / Length 101.1 in. / 193.5 in.
Curb Weight 3439 lbs.
Pounds Per Horsepower 10.7
Fuel Capacity 16.8 gal.
Fuel Requirement unleaded premium, 91 octane
Tires P275/40 ZR17 Goodyear Eagle F1
Brakes, front/rear vented disc / vented disc
Suspension, front/rear independent short-and-long-arm with
coil springs /solid axle with coil springs
Drivetrain front engine, rear-wheel drive

PERFORMANCE
EPA Fuel Economy - miles per gallon
city / highway / observed 18 / 27 / 20
0 to 60 mph 5.3 sec
1/4 mile (E.T.) 13.7 sec

Chevrolet Camaro SS (2000)

320 hp and only a "baby cam" and an exhaust makes me think there is more work done to this car than just that because 373 whp from those 2 mods seems VERY high as i've stated before... I don't know for sure no, it's just IMO.

Methodical4u

Another source 2000 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 0-60 mph 5.2 Quarter mile 13.5

Chevrolet 0-60 Times & Chevrolet Quarter Mile Times | Chevy Chevelle SS, Corvette ZO6 0-60, Cobalt, New Camaro 0-60, Blazer and Chevy Monte Carlo 0 to 60 stats!

V8Killer

Wow man that's a great write up. All cars are different in a way as we all know and respond to add ons differently for instance his old 2000 SS had full bot ons and ran a 13.4-13.5. That is with him driving, my other buddy drove it who weighs about 170 did it in 12.98. So I believe the weight factor is going to play in my favor. That 320is is at the crank I would assume correct? When you swap stock internals out on ls1's it can really liven them up. They got cam's for that car with bolt ons that can get it into the 9s. I can't remeber the name of the cam buts its the biggest one they can put in the car. Thanks for all the info man you didn't need to do all that lol.

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"Punch"

Too much to list and a baby shot of nitrous....

Methodical4u

No big deal, and yeah they always quote bhp or crank power... so hp stock for stock the Z is actually putting out more... but obviously severely lacking in the torque department.

I think it will be a close race, and will come down to driver more than anything... based on hp to weight ratio here is what you are looking at.

If you figure that from what Red Zed told me that it was 373 whp that he got that with JUST the cars stated weight of 3439 lbs that is 9.21 lbs for each hp. Adding his 400 lbs to that and it raises it up to 10.29 lbs per hp.

I am going to just assume you are making 320 hp. I don't know the exact weight of the car, but i've read the touring is a little over 3400 lbs... then i've read it's under that. At 3400 lbs you're looking at 10.625 plus your weight which will put it up a little higher because of you weighing a lot less than your friend. I also don't know exactly what kind of weight reduction you or he will do and how much each of you can lose, though it's not going to change things a whole lot.

Someone with your mods should be able to run a 12.6 or 12.7 with a good run... most of the guys running under that have gears and have a lot of 1/4 time.

Win on lose look at it like this... your still driving a nicer car that isn't a chevy

V8Killer

Stock 285. I won't know till after the tune and all parts added. Did somebody actually weigh that for the windshield fluid I remember seeing that in the weight reduction thread but no actual weight? I am just going to do tools and spare tire.

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"Punch"

Too much to list and a baby shot of nitrous....

Methodical4u

You have or are getting the F.I. exhaust and LTH's correct? The CBE part is 10 lbs lighter and I would imagine the LTH's are lighter than the header and HFC OE combo, so you could be saving another 15 lbs with you exhaust and such there.

I believe I read it is 42 lbs for the spare, tools, etc and if you have the sub, that's another 8.

Guard Dad

If the Camaro hooks up you're toast because the Camaro has the potential to launch very very hard. The thing is street worthy Camaros have a tough time getting the power down at launch. The F body with the LS1 (I had a 99 SS MT6) is capable of unbelievable burn-outs, but burn-outs don't get it done at the track. You have to be perfect to win. If you both have perfect runs he wins. Your 60' time needs to be superior for you to win.

V8Killer

F.I. CBE=10lbs, F.I. LTH=17lbs,JWT Clutch Flywheel combo=17lbs,NST Overdrive Pulley=5oz,Stillen UD pulley=3.73lbs. Now I upgraded the tires from the RE50A to RE-11 and upped the size to 265F/285R. I also don't know the weight difference between stillen g3's the stock air boxes, also add in a stillen 19row oil cooler. The above numbers are what is posted on the websites as =$$ lighter than stock. I will take out the tire and tools but leaving the sub.



Ya I got an uphill battle but either way it is going to be fun and I love being the underdog b/c you know when you can pull a rabbit out your ***.

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"Punch"

Too much to list and a baby shot of nitrous....

Guard Dad

I'm a fan of rabbits.

wh1te370z

Even a Fbody with susp work will have a hard time lauching. And if you lauch any 4th gen Fbody on a stock rear very very hard its going to blow. Stock chevy 10 bolts SUCK.


V8killer. If you could get specs on the cam that would be awesome
lift, duration @ 0.05", and the LSA

stock specs are
0.467" / 0.479" int/exh Lift
197/207 Duration
116 LSA

If its a baby cam itll be around .520-.530 lift, 220-230 duration and prob 114 LSA Prob good for like 40-50ish whp depending on a bunch of stuff. Itll also show me if hes making top end or bottom end power. you can put around .600" of lift in the motor stock. wouldnt be an advantage bc you prob wouldnt be able to flow that much on stock heads

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scarface364

Well guys there seems to be a lot of misconception about the old ls1 in this thread. I'm the guy who put all the mods on Ryans (the op) car and also done work to the 00 SS he mentioned hes racing. The camaro only has headers a small cam and intake, stock gearing and all and yes it made 373HP which is on the low side of the spectrum for that car.
Anyhow I think it'll be a good run if the 370 gets from the hole well, but when the Camaro gets around 2nd gear watch out I can tell you it pulls like a freight train up high.
My old 02 SS with the same mods and a fast intake made 417HP and 385 FTLB tq, the OP can attest to how that car ran from experience... That car had a 231/237 600 lift cam it worked pretty damn good

DTHPROOF

Nice site here guys. I can't wait to run Friday night against Ryan (the OP). I'll be on 275 street tires so your 315 Mickey Thompsons should get you out of the hole a little better, but it's your death on the deep end.

DTHPROOF

You obviously know a little about LSX stuff, but you're not giving credit to the heads that are on the car stock. It's a baby cam and my torque curve is as flat as a pancake. My car peaks at 6400rpms and doesn't fall off; we shut it down at 6900 on the dyno and it was still pulling. Oh, and Ryan; you called my old SS weaksauce in your first post? That car DRUG you on the highway and ran faster at the track.