A.M. Performance Extra Capacity Baffled Racing Oil Pans

ValidusVentus

I apologize for the old thread revival here but after trying to contact AM Performance about this a couple times I'm posting here. Does anyone know if they sold out of these, still have them available or any other info? They look far superior to the GReddy option. Thanks.

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phunk

The Greddy option isnt a relevant road racing product IMHO. I have one on my car, simply because it came with the turbo kit. There is not a single attribute of this pan that is going to prevent oil pickup starvation, etc. I think its main purpose was just to give oil returns for their turbo kit... other than that it serves no purpose.

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ChrisSlicks

The AM pans were a limited run and all parts were sold, and unfortunately AM closed up shop so there are no more to be had.

Maybe some enterprising person with a 5 axis CNC machine could purchase AM's plans and CNC program and build some more. Would save a lot of time versus re-engineering from scratch since theirs seemed to work pretty well.

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phunk

^^ if anyone could get the CAD files from them, I have a CNC that could cut them out no problem. But from the perspective of a CAD designer myself, I would have a really hard time letting go of the design work.

I would tend to believe that if you could get ahold of the designer of that product, even if they have closed up shop... you could probably get them to make another batch if you put a deposit on the materials. I would figure they probably outsourced the CNC work to a machine shop, and it could be as simple as a phone call for them to get more made... so it would only be money in their pocket if you could get ahold of them.

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takjak2

I've been in touch with AM since the shop closure and everything is frozen at the moment. Still trying to get one myself.

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wstar

I believe they were making them in-house, they had bought some nice fabrication and CNC stuff for their shop. I'm guessing "frozen" above means the blueprints are considered corporate assets and they're financially/legally frozen while some process unfolds?

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phunk

If thats the case, I would be curious which CNC they purchased and how much they want for it! (currently in the market for a new or almost new one).

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wstar

Not sure who to contact there, you might talk to Shamu (from these forums) if nothing else, he seems to know some of those guys. I really wouldn't even know what I'm looking at, but here's some pics of some of their machine shop equipment from a past AM Performance thread:

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ChrisSlicks

Not sure if they had CNC in-house, probably just did the CAD work and then sent it out.

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phunk

Ya hard to say... in the photos shown above there is no CNC machine, but it may not have made it in the pictures or perhaps arrived after those photos. Decent CNCs start between 60-75grand, so I dont personally imagine a race team making that sort of purchase unless they planned to use it for manufacturing product to consistently retail as well. All the other stuff I see in the photos is absolutely essential to own and know how to operate for anyone building a true race car in house.

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DivZero

The pans were designed in house and sent to a machine shop for production. You might want to contact Doran Racing about buying the old pans as some of the race motors went there. Either way, a similar pan could be developed with more oil capacity without too much difficulty--if the designer is familiar with oil pan baffling and CAD.

Rusty

They had one pan left. I tried to get, but it was sold. Dollar short, and a day late.

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Shamu

No they outsourced them to a machine shop. They didn't have any CNC machines. The organization is dissolved so suspect it's lost cause. I do have a contact who I can ask but suspect all drawings etc are gone.

They were next to machine shop that had several CNC machines. I have a friend who has 2 CNC machines. If someone could get cad drawings I might be able to get him to do limited run.

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wstar

It's a really nice pan design, it's a shame to see it *not* being produced for those who want it.

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ValidusVentus

^agree


First off, I appreciate all the responses guys. It sure seems like this would be high on a lot of people's list for road racing their Zs considering the possible effect on longterm engine life. That said, I cant exactly think of a time when a VQ37VHR died [naturally] from oil starvation -nod in travis' direction- .... does anyone have reliable evidence -such as through watching their oil pressure gauge- of oil starving in our engines?

And despite any of this I would still feel better having it than not. Shamu if you would be willing to try to contact your guy and find out about this thatd be awsome. I would almost bet I wouldn't be the only one who would still be interested in this design.

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