A.M. Performance Extra Capacity Baffled Racing Oil Pans

Ron · 07-30-2011, 02:32 PM

Besides these oil pans, what other products do guys currently have available to the public?

ChrisSlicks · 07-30-2011, 10:36 PM

Oil pan installed!

Pretty straightforward, the guys at A.M.P. provided extremely detailed instructions with a picture of each step. Maybe a little over the top but better too much than too little!

The hardest part is getting the OEM oil pan gasket to even think about starting to separate. The gasket film is very thin and it is hard to get the separator in there. I ended up lowering the front sway bar to give myself more room, once you get a foothold it is easy.

Set aside some time for this as the oil keeps dripping down, and every time I thought I had the last of it more appeared. Can't have any oil on the surfaces to receive the sealant.

You might want a helper for the final assembly step as holding the oil pan in place while trying to get the first couple of bolts in while laying on you back is a little tough. Once you have 2 bolts hand tightened it is easy enough.

That pesky tab that the back of the oil tray bolts to did have to be bent out of the way. Maybe there is a way to do it with it there but it was in the way every way I tried.

Road test tomorrow, track test Monday.

travisjb · 07-31-2011, 09:08 AM

Great, thx for reporting back Chris... looking forward to getting mine this week and installing next weekend.

So, any pics?

ChrisSlicks · 07-31-2011, 10:53 PM

Sorry, didn't get to take any pics. Things were a little rushed getting the car prepped, spent the morning installing a new bathroom door

FAstGreg · 08-01-2011, 08:27 AM

Does anyone installed this oil pan on a VQ35HR ?
Still avalaible ?

Thanks for help !

spearfish25 · 08-01-2011, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAstGreg

Does anyone installed this oil pan on a VQ35HR ?
Still avalaible ?

Thanks for help !

If Chris is the first non-AM performance person to install the pan, then how could anyone have it installed on a VQ35 motor?

Mike · 08-01-2011, 04:38 PM

I don't know how I missed this. I need one, so put me down.

edit, nevermind. I really want it, but just found out after writing this that I need to come up with 6000 for quarterly taxes in the next 6 weeks. I wasn't planning for that much.

wstar · 08-01-2011, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAstGreg

Does anyone installed this oil pan on a VQ35HR ?

I'm pretty sure it won't be VQ35 compatible, based on my previous research into the reverse (asking around about VQ37 compatibility of VQ35 oil baffle stuff on the market, e.g. Cosworth).

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb

Great, thx for reporting back Chris... looking forward to getting mine this week and installing next weekend.

Ditto. I should have my car back from Baker (LTH install) on Weds, and then my pan arrives on Thursday for a weekend install here at my place

ChrisSlicks · 08-01-2011, 08:00 PM

Well good and bad today from NJMP. The oil pan worked well, but in the heat I was plagued with 280F oil temps and power cuts after about 6 laps each session. Towards the end of each 30 minute session I was also having fuel cuts from fuel starvation exiting turn 9 which is a long, fast, sweeping, banked 180 degree right hand turn. I haven't even put on the fast tires yet so I expect it to be worse tomorrow with the extra grip.

travisjb · 08-01-2011, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

Well good and bad today from NJMP. The oil pan worked well, but in the heat I was plagued with 280F oil temps and power cuts after about 6 laps each session. Towards the end of each 30 minute session I was also having fuel cuts from fuel starvation exiting turn 9 which is a long, fast, sweeping, banked 180 degree right hand turn. I haven't even put on the fast tires yet so I expect it to be worse tomorrow with the extra grip.

ughhh, that's frustrating... at least you didn't have to worry about oil starvation! lol remind us, what is your oil cooling setup?

have fun tomorrow!

ChrisSlicks · 08-01-2011, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb

ughhh, that's frustrating... at least you didn't have to worry about oil starvation! lol remind us, what is your oil cooling setup?

have fun tomorrow!

Oil cooling setup is the AE Performance oil cooler, which is basically the 72 row series 1 Setrab core and AN-8 lines with a non-thermostatic plate. Normally this will keep the oil temps in the 260-265 range driving hard, but this track has you at high RPM's and full throttle a lot so it wasn't taking long to climb up. I'll be looking to add some baffles around the oil cooler to try and maximize air flow, or step the lines up a size or both. I think the best solution long term will be the setup that AM Performance uses with the oil to water cooler.

travisjb · 08-01-2011, 10:21 PM

Chris, I got religion recently on oil cooling... airflow to the core is a huge variable to manage... before you try anything else, consider doing the following:

- create an 'airbox' out of thin sheet aluminum leading up to the core... the goal is not to make it look pretty but to keep the air from flowing around it and force it to flow through
- try to move the oil cooler core back just a bit closer to the radiator core... or put some high temp foam between the two

Should buy you another 20+ degrees F!

You may be able to rig something up at the track to test

Travis

Shamu · 08-02-2011, 12:50 AM

Thanks to the team at AM Performance my new oil pan is installed as well! Can't wait to put it to the test.

The guys at AM are helping me with suspension, LSD and brake tuning now! They are committed to sorting both race cars and street cars. Between 370z race cars and several street cars they are truly figuring out how to optimize this platform for both track and street.

ChrisSlicks · 08-02-2011, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb

Chris, I got religion recently on oil cooling... airflow to the core is a huge variable to manage... before you try anything else, consider doing the following:

- create an 'airbox' out of thin sheet aluminum leading up to the core... the goal is not to make it look pretty but to keep the air from flowing around it and force it to flow through
- try to move the oil cooler core back just a bit closer to the radiator core... or put some high temp foam between the two

Should buy you another 20+ degrees F!

You may be able to rig something up at the track to test

Travis

Thanks Travis. Won't get a chance to try today, but I'll give it a shot before Summit Point in 2 weeks.

Mike@AMPerformance · 08-03-2011, 12:08 PM

Hi guys,

Glad to hear that our first customers are happy with what they got! I would like to drop in for a second here and address the issue with the tab at the back of the pan. This kit has been developed as a direct fit. We have updated our instruction booklet on this item to include the information that if a 1/4" drive universal socket is used, then the pan can be installed without bending the tab. It's still kind of a pain, but we have installed several of these without needing to do any bending of anything. A gear wrench can also be used, but is less effective (and more frustrating!).

Thank you for pointing this out, we really appreciate any and all feedback from our customers. In this case, it helped us to revise our instructions to be as clear as possible. We aim to bring the highest quality product possible to market, and that absolutely includes the clarity of the installation manual, so thanks for being a part of making our product better, Chris!

Mike

07-30-2011, 10:36 PM	#47 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Oil pan installed! Pretty straightforward, the guys at A.M.P. provided extremely detailed instructions with a picture of each step. Maybe a little over the top but better too much than too little! The hardest part is getting the OEM oil pan gasket to even think about starting to separate. The gasket film is very thin and it is hard to get the separator in there. I ended up lowering the front sway bar to give myself more room, once you get a foothold it is easy. Set aside some time for this as the oil keeps dripping down, and every time I thought I had the last of it more appeared. Can't have any oil on the surfaces to receive the sealant. You might want a helper for the final assembly step as holding the oil pan in place while trying to get the first couple of bolts in while laying on you back is a little tough. Once you have 2 bolts hand tightened it is easy enough. That pesky tab that the back of the oil tray bolts to did have to be bent out of the way. Maybe there is a way to do it with it there but it was in the way every way I tried. Road test tomorrow, track test Monday. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

07-31-2011, 09:08 AM	#48 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	Great, thx for reporting back Chris... looking forward to getting mine this week and installing next weekend. So, any pics? __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

07-31-2011, 10:53 PM	#49 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Sorry, didn't get to take any pics. Things were a little rushed getting the car prepped, spent the morning installing a new bathroom door __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

08-01-2011, 08:27 AM	#50 (permalink)
FAstGreg Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Europe Posts: 15 Drives: 07 Nisssan 350Z MT Rep Power: 14	Does anyone installed this oil pan on a VQ35HR ? Still avalaible ? Thanks for help ! Last edited by FAstGreg; 08-01-2011 at 08:53 AM.

08-01-2011, 04:38 PM	#52 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	I don't know how I missed this. I need one, so put me down. edit, nevermind. I really want it, but just found out after writing this that I need to come up with 6000 for quarterly taxes in the next 6 weeks. I wasn't planning for that much. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968 Last edited by Mike; 08-02-2011 at 12:04 AM.

07-30-2011, 02:32 PM	#46 (permalink)
Ron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,009 Drives: TT '11 PW Nismo #113 Rep Power: 22	Besides these oil pans, what other products do guys currently have available to the public?

08-01-2011, 08:00 PM	#54 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Well good and bad today from NJMP. The oil pan worked well, but in the heat I was plagued with 280F oil temps and power cuts after about 6 laps each session. Towards the end of each 30 minute session I was also having fuel cuts from fuel starvation exiting turn 9 which is a long, fast, sweeping, banked 180 degree right hand turn. I haven't even put on the fast tires yet so I expect it to be worse tomorrow with the extra grip. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

08-01-2011, 10:21 PM	#57 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	Chris, I got religion recently on oil cooling... airflow to the core is a huge variable to manage... before you try anything else, consider doing the following: - create an 'airbox' out of thin sheet aluminum leading up to the core... the goal is not to make it look pretty but to keep the air from flowing around it and force it to flow through - try to move the oil cooler core back just a bit closer to the radiator core... or put some high temp foam between the two Should buy you another 20+ degrees F! You may be able to rig something up at the track to test Travis __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

08-02-2011, 12:50 AM	#58 (permalink)
Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 19	Thanks to the team at AM Performance my new oil pan is installed as well! Can't wait to put it to the test. The guys at AM are helping me with suspension, LSD and brake tuning now! They are committed to sorting both race cars and street cars. Between 370z race cars and several street cars they are truly figuring out how to optimize this platform for both track and street. __________________ Grant

08-03-2011, 12:08 PM	#60 (permalink)
Mike@AMPerformance Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 64 Drives: 370Z Grand Am GS Rep Power: 14	Hi guys, Glad to hear that our first customers are happy with what they got! I would like to drop in for a second here and address the issue with the tab at the back of the pan. This kit has been developed as a direct fit. We have updated our instruction booklet on this item to include the information that if a 1/4" drive universal socket is used, then the pan can be installed without bending the tab. It's still kind of a pain, but we have installed several of these without needing to do any bending of anything. A gear wrench can also be used, but is less effective (and more frustrating!). Thank you for pointing this out, we really appreciate any and all feedback from our customers. In this case, it helped us to revise our instructions to be as clear as possible. We aim to bring the highest quality product possible to market, and that absolutely includes the clarity of the installation manual, so thanks for being a part of making our product better, Chris! Mike __________________ Grand Am GS #04 370Z

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