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I tracked on hibachis for a year and they were great. Edit:I'm posting from my iPad and it auto corrected eibach to hibachis. I love rolling on a BBQ grill

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Old 04-28-2011, 10:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I tracked on hibachis for a year and they were great.


Edit:I'm posting from my iPad and it auto corrected eibach to hibachis. I love rolling on a BBQ grill suspension,,,,,
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The hibachi's don't handle great, but they are delicious!..We're on to something here...thanks- I'll have to consider the eibachs as well.
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ZCarMan tracks his Z and is running on Swift springs. Not sure if he has been out on track yet since the install but you might want to send him a PM and see what he thinks. I know he really likes them on the street.
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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that probably is the case, the stock lugs can move a little if you put them in the hole when the wheel isn't mounted. stupid design, I wonder why they use it?
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Debate over spacers and safety can go on forever. I choose not to use spacers ever.
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I only used them with the stock wheels so that they would be compatible with the extended studs I run for the my track wheels. At this point I'm just going to lose the spacers and find some open lugs that are compatible with the stock wheels.
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I think the only way to get open lugs that are compatible would be to slice the top off of the stock lugnuts and open them yourself.

I do use spacers for the track, so that I can run the same wheels front and back and rotate tires.
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I wonder if it was truly the Nissan lugs. If the studs aren't pulled all the way through and the wheel torque drops with driving, you'd break the spacer. I can't see how a wheel would put any additional force on the hubcentric ring if all 5 lugs are properly torqued. My winter wheels have plastic hubcentric rings that sit flush with the spacer hubcentric rings. If there was pressure there, all the plastic rings would have been destroyed when I took off the winter wheels this spring...but they were all fine.
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I wonder if it was truly the Nissan lugs. If the studs aren't pulled all the way through and the wheel torque drops with driving, you'd break the spacer. I can't see how a wheel would put any additional force on the hubcentric ring if all 5 lugs are properly torqued. My winter wheels have plastic hubcentric rings that sit flush with the spacer hubcentric rings. If there was pressure there, all the plastic rings would have been destroyed when I took off the winter wheels this spring...but they were all fine.
Look closely at the Nissan lugs the next time you mount up a stock wheel. Unlike the lugs from the 350Z they don't use the cone seat to really center themselves perfectly. They rely on the washer applying enough torque to hold everything in position once it is centered on the ring.

With your aftermarket wheels they are probably lug centric lugs which will use a cone seat to get everything perfect with the center ring as a guide. I can run my aftermarket wheels with or without the centering rings and it doesn't seem to make a difference. Do that with the stock wheels and you get horrible vibration (spacer without centering ring).
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If that's the case, can I just run my aftermarket wheel lugs with my stock Rays? Never tried swapping the lugs, but I did use the wheel locks on the aftermarket rims.

I just pulled all four wheels to swap pads after my last autocross where I dogged the car. Spacers are all still intact.
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