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Anyone got any solves for this? or did all y'all crash??? I saw that ECUTek tune and maybe a vacuum to the breaks may help but I haven't seen anyone

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Old 12-12-2019, 12:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone got any solves for this? or did all y'all crash??? I saw that ECUTek tune and maybe a vacuum to the breaks may help but I haven't seen anyone say "fixed!"

Just trying to bump an old thread as I plan on tracking the car soon and putting new brake pads on it...
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Anyone got any solves for this? or did all y'all crash??? I saw that ECUTek tune and maybe a vacuum to the breaks may help but I haven't seen anyone say "fixed!"

Just trying to bump an old thread as I plan on tracking the car soon and putting new brake pads on it...
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Just trying to bump an old thread as I plan on tracking the car soon and putting new brake pads on it...
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ive dealt with ice mode quite a bit... hard braking will lock up the rears 1st... since the fronts are still rolling, ice mode......

the best way (using carbotechs) is to back it off and use more inertial into as many turns as possible.... hammer on throttle until the corner will keep this problem surfacing,,, and you might blow a brake sensor, which dumps you into limp mode until you fix it.
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I recently replaced all 4 calipers on my car and went with less aggressive pads, everything did get better.
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I've been struggling with ice mode ever since I put in my Nismo Pro 2-Way diff. I'm taking the extreme approach and disabling ABS the next time I'm out to see if I can make that work. I hear that the brake bias will make it difficult, so I may also try putting in a bias adjuster to see if I can run without ABS with better control. I'm guessing a full Bosch ABS is the only 100% solution, but that's big $$.
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I drive a 350Z and had 'ice mode' issues too. My solution was to completely remove ABS from the car and install a proportioning valve for the rears. Tracking is just a hobby for me and this solution works best for peace of mind and performance.

I did try a number of other brake pads before going to the extreme of ABS removal. A wreck will help make that decision faster for you..
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Something like this?

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Yes. That’s it. Just need to figure out the piping necessary. I found posts on here that show examples. I’ll give it a shot and report back with pics. Assuming I pull it off.
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Yes. That’s it. Just need to figure out the piping necessary. I found posts on here that show examples. I’ll give it a shot and report back with pics. Assuming I pull it off.
Yes. And although they do not recommend it, you can get the cable/dial accessory so that you can locate the adjuster inside the cabin. I used some locktite on mine and it works. Takes some getting used to with the slack -but easier than burying your hand in the engine bay to get a turn in.

https://www.jegs.com/i/Wilwood/950/3...SABEgLVrvD_BwE
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Yes. And although they do not recommend it, you can get the cable/dial accessory so that you can locate the adjuster inside the cabin. I used some locktite on mine and it works. Takes some getting used to with the slack -but easier than burying your hand in the engine bay to get a turn in.

https://www.jegs.com/i/Wilwood/950/3...SABEgLVrvD_BwE
Great idea. Thanks for the help. I would rather adjust while on track.
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I guess I am one of the lucky ones that's never run into this, I feel bad for you guys. I think I'm just not as hard on the brakes as I could be.
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Reviving this thread. I know Austin Hertel, he races in the same series as I do (with another car), but I built a "clubsport" Nismo that's a hardcore track car. The MK60 isn't an option for me because it deletes all other electronic functions like speedo/tach/etc. etc. The only way to do MK60 and keep the other OE stuff is to install an additional 4 wheel speed sensors and run BOTH ABS setups, which is ridiculous as well, and not really feasible for a street car.

My question is, the Bosch M5 Clubsport kit, is also available for our cars. Can that be installed and still keep use of all other OE functions? That setup, while still expensive, would be worth it IMO if you can still retain the other OE functions (speedo, etc.). The Bosch M5 Clubsport is like 7K. Yes, it's crazy expensive, but alot less expensive than putting my Nismo into a wall.

I had my car lockup, yes, lockup the front wheels going into a corner where you have a slight bit of wheel in the car. It doesn't like that at all. Instead of giving me ABS pules, or Ice Mode, which it's done in that same corner before, this time, it just went to straight lockup, and torched my right front tire. That is some crazy ****. I own all kinds of track cars, and this is by far the worst ABS I've ever driven on. I have the right size tires F/R, have the right stagger in rear pads, all the best brake cooling. Years and years of driving and racing, so I know how to brake. What this means is that if you aren't perfect, which nobody is from time to time, then this will bite you, bad. That's just not an acceptable outcome, because if it happended at another track, I'd have been in a wall.
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Reviving this thread. I know Austin Hertel, he races in the same series as I do (with another car), but I built a "clubsport" Nismo that's a hardcore track car. The MK60 isn't an option for me because it deletes all other electronic functions like speedo/tach/etc. etc. The only way to do MK60 and keep the other OE stuff is to install an additional 4 wheel speed sensors and run BOTH ABS setups, which is ridiculous as well, and not really feasible for a street car.

My question is, the Bosch M5 Clubsport kit, is also available for our cars. Can that be installed and still keep use of all other OE functions? That setup, while still expensive, would be worth it IMO if you can still retain the other OE functions (speedo, etc.). The Bosch M5 Clubsport is like 7K. Yes, it's crazy expensive, but alot less expensive than putting my Nismo into a wall.

I had my car lockup, yes, lockup the front wheels going into a corner where you have a slight bit of wheel in the car. It doesn't like that at all. Instead of giving me ABS pules, or Ice Mode, which it's done in that same corner before, this time, it just went to straight lockup, and torched my right front tire. That is some crazy ****. I own all kinds of track cars, and this is by far the worst ABS I've ever driven on. I have the right size tires F/R, have the right stagger in rear pads, all the best brake cooling. Years and years of driving and racing, so I know how to brake. What this means is that if you aren't perfect, which nobody is from time to time, then this will bite you, bad. That's just not an acceptable outcome, because if it happended at another track, I'd have been in a wall.

HotrodZ has had it done. It took him forever to get the parts. Had to get them from Germany and it took a long while. He is in the testing phase of his car now. Had issues with overheating, working on that at the moment.
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Lost a front splitter on my autox car earlier this year for exactly this reason. Came in hard on a tight 180, hit a small bump and immediate lockup. Ended up in the uneven dirt off the pavement where the splitter dug in and broke into pieces. I just don't understand why an abs system that behaves this way makes any sense.

Out of curiousity, which MK60 units are people using? From what I found the version of the unit you want (the programmable one), is nearly impossible to get anywhere. Is there a reliable source to get them from still?
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