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18whisky 03-22-2011 06:32 AM

Can't drift my Z
 
well guys i have a problem. The other night I was trying to drift and I fail my diferential for some reason didnt lock, and VDC was off. Is there anything I can do to lock the diferential in my 370z touring? or my Z is not made for drifting, only the sport P can?

brian0128 03-22-2011 06:50 AM

I'm curious how you were trying to drift the car. What exactly was limiting you from putting the car into a slide and keeping it there? I'm not a drifter myself, but I don't think anyone would be able to help unless they know what technique you are trying to use and what is happening when you are doing it.

m4a1mustang 03-22-2011 07:00 AM

The non-sport package cars use an open differential, so you're not going to get any lock.

Hope you were on a closed course. :)

ChrisSlicks 03-22-2011 07:10 AM

With enough room on the track you should be able to start the drift no problem, however without a limited slip differential your going to have difficulty keeping it there. Aftermarket is the way to go.

cossie1600 03-22-2011 08:39 AM

ABLS will kick in at some point anyway, pointless

Mt Tam I am 03-22-2011 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1001407)
The non-sport package cars use an open differential, so you're not going to get any lock.

Hope you were on a closed course. :)

Great answer. +1.

Cmike2780 03-22-2011 09:10 AM

I can feel my insurance go up as we speak. I really hope this wasn't on a public road. I don't think there are any cars designed specifically to drift. In fact, I'm pretty sure engineers designed the car to be fast around corners.

Anyway, mustang is right, the touring w/o sport, doesn't have a LSD. Even if you had the sports package though, you should probably upgrade the LSD if you plan on doing any serious drifting. There are a few threads on that upgrade if you do a search.

Cmike2780 03-22-2011 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1001551)
abls will kick in at some point anyway, pointless

abls?

ChrisSlicks 03-22-2011 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1001596)
abls?

Active Brake Limited Slip. It sends a brake pulse to the spinning rear wheel, a poor man's LSD. It can be disabled by disconnecting the Bosch module under the center console next to the e-brake.

cossie1600 03-22-2011 09:40 AM

The stagger tires/ABLS/suspension all made the 370 less slide friendly than the 350. If you have to ask how to do it, chances are that you can't do it :)

Isamu 03-22-2011 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1001680)
The stagger tires/ABLS/suspension all made the 370 less slide friendly than the 350. If you have to ask how to do it, chances are that you can't do it :)

anyone can learn brah

Xander117 03-22-2011 09:51 AM

"All right, look, man, there's lots of ways you can do this, all right?

Hand brakingis the easiest, so the first thing I want you to do,is rip that e-brake.All right,after you rip the e-brake,then I want you to power over." :roflpuke2:

RCZ 03-22-2011 09:55 AM

get an lsd, rain and an open space, then practice...then realign the car...

jazz 03-22-2011 10:24 AM

hmmm...so the dealer told me that the no-sport is the same car as sport but without 19" wheels and brakes!! your tellig me i was undersold or miss sold...grrr

red6spd 03-22-2011 10:31 AM

He is leaving out the LSD, SRM, and the spolier/lip

onzedge 03-22-2011 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 1001737)
get an lsd, rain and an open space, then practice...then realign the car...

:iagree:

ChrisSlicks 03-22-2011 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazz (Post 1001821)
hmmm...so the dealer told me that the no-sport is the same car as sport but without 19" wheels and brakes!! your tellig me i was undersold or miss sold...grrr

Sport adds:
19" wheels
Viscous LSD
Akebono brakes
SRM
Rear spoiler

Cmike2780 03-22-2011 10:48 AM

19" wheels
Viscous LSD
Akebono brakes
SRM
Rear spoiler
+wider tires
+chin spoiler
+gear indicator on tach.


The good news is that you can get aftermarket parts for almost all of the above except the SRM.

Xander117 03-22-2011 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1001928)
19" wheels
Viscous LSD
Akebono brakes
SRM
Rear spoiler
+wider tires
+chin spoiler
+gear indicator on tach.


The good news is that you can get aftermarket parts for almost all of the above except the SRM.

Just not at the same price tag, which is why so many people go for the sport package. Though if you are serious about drifting then this probably shouldnt be an issue.

TypeOne 03-22-2011 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1001614)
Active Brake Limited Slip. It sends a brake pulse to the spinning rear wheel, a poor man's LSD. It can be disabled by disconnecting the Bosch module under the center console next to the e-brake.

Can you elaborate on this?

Does this throw warning lights?

I've noticed when I'm at the track, on a good launch with VDC off, the traction light will still come on and cut my power.

Will unplugging that solve that issue?

:eekdance:

Cmike2780 03-22-2011 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xander117 (Post 1001949)
Just not at the same price tag, which is why so many people go for the sport package. Though if you are serious about drifting then this probably shouldnt be an issue.

True, which is why the SP is such a good value overall. For those turning the Z into a drift car though, most of the SP options get replaced with more heavy duty goodies.

ChrisSlicks 03-22-2011 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TypeOne (Post 1002414)
Can you elaborate on this?

Does this throw warning lights?

I've noticed when I'm at the track, on a good launch with VDC off, the traction light will still come on and cut my power.

Will unplugging that solve that issue?

:eekdance:

The slip light will flash yes. It can happen even in a straight line, particularly in the base, or in either the sport or the base if you lift a wheel a bit in a corner.

Unplugging the module will eliminate the intervention and allow the base owners to do a full one-wheel peel :)

cossie1600 03-22-2011 03:14 PM

It doesn't cut your power, it just apply the brakes to slow your power...

Dark Sarcasm 03-22-2011 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazz (Post 1001821)
hmmm...so the dealer told me that the no-sport is the same car as sport but without 19" wheels and brakes!! your tellig me i was undersold or miss sold...grrr


you're telling yourself that.... you should have done your research.

jazz 03-23-2011 07:50 AM

hmmm. so i will have 1 wheel peel? my build list...
wilwood BBK front and rear
venaci wheels 20" spirits (on order)
hks coilovers
hotchicks sway bars
spc front and rear camber arms
hks cbe
stillen g2
kinetix cats

not looking to drift just for around town....and got ripped for the lsd... feel a bit sad!

Cmike2780 03-23-2011 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazz (Post 1004091)
hmmm. so i will have 1 wheel peel? my build list...
wilwood BBK front and rear
venaci wheels 20" spirits (on order)
hks coilovers
hotchicks sway bars
spc front and rear camber arms
hks cbe
stillen g2
kinetix cats

not looking to drift just for around town....and got ripped for the lsd... feel a bit sad!

Don't feel too bad, it's not like you can't get one installed. The sports package comes with a VLSD anyways. Won't do a single wheel peel, but it won't lock up under heavy torque in the corners. Not as effective as an LSD. Plenty of threads on LSD on this site. Should run you around $1,200.

Xander117 03-23-2011 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazz (Post 1004091)
hmmm. so i will have 1 wheel peel? my build list...
wilwood BBK front and rear
venaci wheels 20" spirits (on order)
hks coilovers
hotchicks sway bars
spc front and rear camber arms
hks cbe
stillen g2
kinetix cats

not looking to drift just for around town....and got ripped for the lsd... feel a bit sad!

Around town is not really the place to be trying any of this, please be safe and take it somewhere that you dont endanger other drivers.

cossie1600 03-23-2011 09:04 AM

Paul Walker taught me how to drive, I am all set!

MightyBobo 03-26-2011 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xander117 (Post 1004192)
Around town is not really the place to be trying any of this, please be safe and take it somewhere that you dont endanger other drivers.

Im pretty sure he was saying that he's going to spend thousands of dollars on performance parts so he can tool around town, not to drift around town.

Money well spent!

cossie1600 03-27-2011 08:06 AM

just in time for fast 5 yo

karotZ 03-27-2011 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1014089)
just in time for fast 5 yo

:roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

zzdudaka 04-05-2011 07:29 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by cossie1600
The stagger tires/ABLS/suspension all made the 370 less slide friendly than the 350. If you have to ask how to do it, chances are that you can't do it

More info please haha.

cossie1600 04-05-2011 08:03 PM

I would go ask the bald jesus (Vin Diesel) on how to drift, I can only drive normal

z33_kid 04-05-2011 10:00 PM

buy lsd,suspension parts..tires tires tires.. and lots of seat time...and remember you will crash eventually !

Brazilbro 04-11-2011 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1035240)
I would go ask the bald jesus (Vin Diesel) on how to drift, I can only drive normal

Just don't ask this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB3to...eature=related

B.A.Q 04-13-2011 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1001418)
With enough room on the track you should be able to start the drift no problem, however without a limited slip differential your going to have difficulty keeping it there. Aftermarket is the way to go.

^ agree

I have the base model to and I have that problem. I can't drift my car without some speed

and just to let you know the after market LSD will drop the warranty on the drive-train

cossie1600 04-13-2011 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 1047382)
Just don't ask this guy
YouTube - Car drifting gone wrong

LOL. Dancing with the tards

CodeOfSilence 05-04-2011 08:08 PM

I had no problem drifting... car worked out awsume

Davey 05-04-2011 08:21 PM

1. Get a barge
2. Pull the Z onto it
3. Shove off
4. Drift away!

(Please do this instead of driving like a jackass on the streets. :mad: )


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