Drifting mods?

wdkwang · 03-05-2011, 09:17 PM

I bought my Z as a DD and a drift car.
I've yet to learn how to but I definitely will this summer. From what understand, throwing a car around as much as one would in drifting will slowly twist up the chassis and essentially weaken it. So I'm considering the 3 braces that GT Spec make (2009 + 370Z | www.gtspec.com).
Followed by the usual coilovers, front/rear camber kits, and sway bars.

Also, I was told that the stock LSD on our Z's should be replaced with a full 2-way LSD because our stock one will not be able to hold more than 1-2 drifts.

Thoughts, comments?

red6spd · 03-05-2011, 09:22 PM

What do you mean the stock LSD wont hold more then 1 or 2 diffs?? Like it will break?

wh1te370z · 03-05-2011, 10:59 PM

it will hold up for more than 2 drifts. i can vouch for that. BUTT it isnt the best lsd to drift with. I would def go for a dif lsd. You'll never be able to do what you want with the stock one. it tends to let go very easily. Also if you are going to drift the car id look into trying to disable ABS and traction control. this also will prevent you, IMO, from the car giving you its full potential.

shabarivas · 03-05-2011, 11:02 PM

Trays?

HATED1 · 03-06-2011, 01:44 AM

Best bet is to get a 2 way LSD, get use to the way the car handles at the track. Next I would get, if you can handle the soft suspension, an oil cooler. Practicing donuts and figure 8's will overheat the engine quickly. Coilovers next. Those are the basics you need, tweek after you get the basics down. Don't worry about "stiffness of the chasis" at this point. Learn how the car works with the basic things needed to get it to drift.

wdkwang · 03-07-2011, 05:01 AM

thanks, i'll probably follow your floor plan hated1.

between trying to drift with the stock LSD and 2way LSD, what difference am i going to expect. will i be spinning out more with the stock one?

HATED1 · 03-07-2011, 01:44 PM

With the stock LSD, at first when you are learning to drift it will be adequate as the viscous LSD should hold up, however after a few events the viscous LSD will wear down quite quickly wear it will no longer lock up both rear tires therefore make it difficult to initiate. An aftermarket clutch-type LSD is ideal for drifting specifically 2 way because it will always be locked, initiating drifts are smoother, more controllable and easier to initiate. The downside is you must be very careful when driving in rain or slick conditions, also there is noise associated with aftermarket lsds.

theDreamer · 03-07-2011, 01:48 PM

Cooling will be a factor, look at getting an nice open front bumper.
Gas/Fuel starvation will become an issue
Suspension

Your main needs at the beginning probably, after that you will start tearing things up and can just replace the OEM parts with upgraded pieces.

wdkwang · 03-07-2011, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HATED1

With the stock LSD, at first when you are learning to drift it will be adequate as the viscous LSD should hold up, however after a few events the viscous LSD will wear down quite quickly wear it will no longer lock up both rear tires therefore make it difficult to initiate. An aftermarket clutch-type LSD is ideal for drifting specifically 2 way because it will always be locked, initiating drifts are smoother, more controllable and easier to initiate. The downside is you must be very careful when driving in rain or slick conditions, also there is noise associated with aftermarket lsds.

So is it cool to just run the stock LSD to the ground and replace it with an aftermarket once it's done for? Sounds like it's not going to last more than a season or two by the way you describe it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

Cooling will be a factor, look at getting an nice open front bumper.
Gas/Fuel starvation will become an issue
Suspension

Your main needs at the beginning probably, after that you will start tearing things up and can just replace the OEM parts with upgraded pieces.

What OEM parts am I expecting to tear up besides tires?

theDreamer · 03-07-2011, 05:19 PM

Clutch, brake parts (pads, lines, fluid), wheels, front bumper (actually all body pieces).

wdkwang · 03-07-2011, 05:59 PM

This always leads me back to the saying, "You got to pay to play."

theDreamer · 03-07-2011, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdkwang

This always leads me back to the saying, "You got to pay to play."

Yes you do, one reason people go with older cars is because parts are cheaper and if you mess something up you are ok with it.
Also because older cars are a lot lighter and do not require a lot of power to break them lose.

wdkwang · 03-07-2011, 06:11 PM

Yeah, I've come to notice nothing is cheap on the Z.
A few people have told me just get a $5-7k drift-ready 240sx and mess around that.
I honestly don't know if it that is better since it's that much more for another entire car, insurance, and cheaper replacement parts vs. 370z with a few grand in parts and more expensive parts. It be worth getting a 240 if I end up drive the Z into a wall, though.

theDreamer · 03-07-2011, 06:12 PM

You can get a 240sx for cheaper than that and set it up yourself.
Buy one for 1-2k, gut it yourself, throw on some coilovers and get some cheap wheels with tires and go learn. After awhile you can start throwing on some upgrades as you learn. Much easier than using your 370z right now and then messing up something that costs 3k on the Z.

kkruel55 · 03-07-2011, 09:19 PM

Dreamer... you and me... backyard drift school. Let's go.

03-05-2011, 09:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
wdkwang Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 899 Drives: slidewayz Rep Power: 21	Drifting mods? I bought my Z as a DD and a drift car. I've yet to learn how to but I definitely will this summer. From what understand, throwing a car around as much as one would in drifting will slowly twist up the chassis and essentially weaken it. So I'm considering the 3 braces that GT Spec make (2009 + 370Z \| www.gtspec.com). Followed by the usual coilovers, front/rear camber kits, and sway bars. Also, I was told that the stock LSD on our Z's should be replaced with a full 2-way LSD because our stock one will not be able to hold more than 1-2 drifts. Thoughts, comments? __________________ Powerhouse Amuse \| K&N Typhoon Intakes \| MotorDyne ART Pipes \| Borla Catback Exhaust \| B&M Short Shifter \| Intake Ducts \| Ichiba 25mm F/R Spacers \| Carbon Fiber Interior Vinyl Wrap \| Tints \| 10000k HIDs \| Vtak, yo!

03-05-2011, 09:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	What do you mean the stock LSD wont hold more then 1 or 2 diffs?? Like it will break? __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

03-05-2011, 10:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
wh1te370z Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York, Long Island Posts: 559 Drives: PW Base Sport 6 Spd Rep Power: 16	it will hold up for more than 2 drifts. i can vouch for that. BUTT it isnt the best lsd to drift with. I would def go for a dif lsd. You'll never be able to do what you want with the stock one. it tends to let go very easily. Also if you are going to drift the car id look into trying to disable ABS and traction control. this also will prevent you, IMO, from the car giving you its full potential. __________________ 1998 BMW 328is... Track Build 2010 White 370z.... sold

03-05-2011, 11:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
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03-06-2011, 01:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
HATED1 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: WA Posts: 504 Drives: 2010-370z-Red-6 SPD Rep Power: 17	Best bet is to get a 2 way LSD, get use to the way the car handles at the track. Next I would get, if you can handle the soft suspension, an oil cooler. Practicing donuts and figure 8's will overheat the engine quickly. Coilovers next. Those are the basics you need, tweek after you get the basics down. Don't worry about "stiffness of the chasis" at this point. Learn how the car works with the basic things needed to get it to drift. __________________ If i can't be loved I might as well be hated... Last edited by HATED1; 03-06-2011 at 02:08 AM.

03-07-2011, 05:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
wdkwang Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 899 Drives: slidewayz Rep Power: 21	thanks, i'll probably follow your floor plan hated1. between trying to drift with the stock LSD and 2way LSD, what difference am i going to expect. will i be spinning out more with the stock one? __________________ Powerhouse Amuse \| K&N Typhoon Intakes \| MotorDyne ART Pipes \| Borla Catback Exhaust \| B&M Short Shifter \| Intake Ducts \| Ichiba 25mm F/R Spacers \| Carbon Fiber Interior Vinyl Wrap \| Tints \| 10000k HIDs \| Vtak, yo!

03-07-2011, 01:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
HATED1 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: WA Posts: 504 Drives: 2010-370z-Red-6 SPD Rep Power: 17	With the stock LSD, at first when you are learning to drift it will be adequate as the viscous LSD should hold up, however after a few events the viscous LSD will wear down quite quickly wear it will no longer lock up both rear tires therefore make it difficult to initiate. An aftermarket clutch-type LSD is ideal for drifting specifically 2 way because it will always be locked, initiating drifts are smoother, more controllable and easier to initiate. The downside is you must be very careful when driving in rain or slick conditions, also there is noise associated with aftermarket lsds. __________________ If i can't be loved I might as well be hated...

03-07-2011, 01:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Cooling will be a factor, look at getting an nice open front bumper. Gas/Fuel starvation will become an issue Suspension Your main needs at the beginning probably, after that you will start tearing things up and can just replace the OEM parts with upgraded pieces. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

03-07-2011, 05:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Clutch, brake parts (pads, lines, fluid), wheels, front bumper (actually all body pieces). __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

03-07-2011, 05:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
wdkwang Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 899 Drives: slidewayz Rep Power: 21	This always leads me back to the saying, "You got to pay to play." __________________ Powerhouse Amuse \| K&N Typhoon Intakes \| MotorDyne ART Pipes \| Borla Catback Exhaust \| B&M Short Shifter \| Intake Ducts \| Ichiba 25mm F/R Spacers \| Carbon Fiber Interior Vinyl Wrap \| Tints \| 10000k HIDs \| Vtak, yo!

03-07-2011, 06:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
wdkwang Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 899 Drives: slidewayz Rep Power: 21	Yeah, I've come to notice nothing is cheap on the Z. A few people have told me just get a $5-7k drift-ready 240sx and mess around that. I honestly don't know if it that is better since it's that much more for another entire car, insurance, and cheaper replacement parts vs. 370z with a few grand in parts and more expensive parts. It be worth getting a 240 if I end up drive the Z into a wall, though. __________________ Powerhouse Amuse \| K&N Typhoon Intakes \| MotorDyne ART Pipes \| Borla Catback Exhaust \| B&M Short Shifter \| Intake Ducts \| Ichiba 25mm F/R Spacers \| Carbon Fiber Interior Vinyl Wrap \| Tints \| 10000k HIDs \| Vtak, yo!

03-07-2011, 06:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	You can get a 240sx for cheaper than that and set it up yourself. Buy one for 1-2k, gut it yourself, throw on some coilovers and get some cheap wheels with tires and go learn. After awhile you can start throwing on some upgrades as you learn. Much easier than using your 370z right now and then messing up something that costs 3k on the Z. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

03-07-2011, 09:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
kkruel55 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 206 Drives: '10 370Z Black M6 Rep Power: 15	Dreamer... you and me... backyard drift school. Let's go. __________________ 2010 Magnetic Black Coupe 6 speed-- Powerhouse Amuse//AP Racing//Volk Racing//Stillen//Tein//SPC//Hotchkis//INGS+1//MRWorks//Fast Intentions

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