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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am My neighbor has a 1993-4 NSX, while I had a 300ZXTT. He would wait for me nearly every week day, just to drive

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Old 09-27-2010, 05:12 PM   #31 (permalink)
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My neighbor has a 1993-4 NSX, while I had a 300ZXTT. He would wait for me nearly every week day, just to drive in a competitive and spirited way. The two cars were very evenly matched, although he eventually stopped because he could not out pace me.
Since my 370 is approximately 10% better handling and 10% more HP, I knew the results before they happened. My neighbor was full of excuses.
I must say though his older car is still worth today about the same as my new car. The NSX is rare (approximate production 8,000), collectible and still relevant.
Where do you get this 10% figure from? Forza 3 on xbox?
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Where do you get this 10% figure from? Forza 3 on xbox?
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I agree with unknown 100%. The NSX is the better car and that 252hp number is from an automatic. I knew a biased Z guy would pull that up.

The car is hand built and weighs as much as a focus. Very well ahead of it's time, the car was built for aryton senna's liking (famous f1 car champion). Also an NSX would destroy a 350 all day long. I would put my money on a 370 in a straight line but that would be neck and neck.
I really disagree with this. These things handled pretty damn well in the 90's, but they are seriously underpowered. As I said before on my very first track day I was in an advanced group with this black mid 90s NSX. Beautiful car, looked good out there, but I was running several second faster laps on a sub 2 minute track with mostly curves where it should supposedly excel. I think this is one of those arguments people with Z's seem to get into with the Mustang guys about how they may have a Z in a straight line but it can win on a track due to handling. Especially with the 5.0 this is just not true, and same goes with the NSX. Great vehicle for its time but no match for a 350 or 370z on the track with similar skill leveled drivers. It does look like a much faster vehicle but it is just not. I would absolutely buy one of these babies up because I do love them, but it's just not the monster people make it out to be.
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People think regular NSXs are a lot faster then what they really are. There slower then a 350Z/370Z around a track. It's the JDM only limited production NSXR that's quick around a track. The regular NSX just barely out handled the 300ZX, Supra, RX-7 in the early 90s.
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Old 09-27-2010, 11:32 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I ran across an old friend that had purchased a 1992 nsx since the last time I had seen him and omg those things must have been the shiznits back in those days! If he would of caught me slip'n I might of been seeing tail lights. I didnt talk to him long so I dont know if he had any aftermarket stuff. I have HFC's and CAI. Are the older nsx usually that quick or do yall think he had some extra's. Either way it was good times.
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The 1992 version should not have been competitive with you unless he had extensive after market parts. The 1996 however is virtually the same.

Oh, as to another poster's remark about the NSX out handling our cars, in a word...no, well, at least not the Sport model. The base a little, but then again the base autos have always shown the quickest 1/4 times too (13.1 for example).

Year Make Model Engine HP Torque 0-60 ¼ Mile Skidpad
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My friend just bought a 96 NSX...we were messing around on the freeway and I always seem to pull on him. Any how, I always thought they were exotic looking....love the shape....beautiful car. I'm sure the 97+ models should give our Z's good competition.
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I ran across an old friend that had purchased a 1992 nsx since the last time I had seen him and omg those things must have been the shiznits back in those days! If he would of caught me slip'n I might of been seeing tail lights. I didnt talk to him long so I dont know if he had any aftermarket stuff. I have HFC's and CAI. Are the older nsx usually that quick or do yall think he had some extra's. Either way it was good times.
I stomped one in my old LS1 F-body from a highway roll. They are nothing special in the speed department. What they do have going for them is the fact that they set a lot of automotive mile-markers in design/technology regarding material (aluminum chassis/suspension, etc. Every sub-system of the car was designed or tuned by what could read as a "who's who" list on racing at that time, from Japanese, to Americans, to Brazilians. The car was Japan's all-out shot at Ferrari.

Sadly, they built a masterpiece and then just polished it up from year to year without ever truly updating it. It has fallen by the wayside, but it's a great footnote in history!

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I stomped one in my old LS1 F-body from a highway roll. They are nothing special in the speed department. What they do have going for them is the fact that they set a lot of automotive mile-markers in design/technology regarding material (aluminum chassis/suspension, etc. Every sub-system of the car was designed or tuned by what could read as a "who's who" list on racing at that time, from Japanese, to Americans, to Brazilians. The car was Japan's all-out shot at Ferrari.

Sadly, they built a masterpiece and then just polished it up from year to year without ever truly updating it. It has fallen by the wayside, but it's a great footnote in history!
Yeah, if I ever bought one I would drive it for fun, but mostly have it as a piece of automotive history. Without the NSX, the car world would likely be drastically different than it is now.
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Sport Auto ran a 7:38s lap time around the Nurburgring in the NSX in 1997.
Sport Auto ran a 7:26s lap time around the Nurburgring in the 350Z in 2003.

That can't be right because the 2012 GTR ran 7:24 in semi wet. That 350Z time was probably not the a full circuit.

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The NSX was never a race car, the power is not there and it doesn't impress me for a suppossed "super car". On it days was way to pricey.

On the other hand on the twistys is a different story.
Whaaat?! Honda tuned the NSX according to Ayrton Senna's feedback. And for those who don't know, he is considered by many as the best driver in the history of Forluma1. That's pretty "super" if you ask me.
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That can't be right because the 2012 GTR ran 7:24 in semi wet. That 350Z time was probably not the a full circuit.
Correction, it was 8:38 and 8:26.
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Import tuner did an exhaust install on an NSX in a recent issue. I think they said that the whole install from headers back took 13 hours to do, cost a small fortune and didnt provide very impressive power gains. While I agree the old NSX has past its prime, I still can't wait for Honda to release the new one, I'm guessing lighter R8 at GT-R price?
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I think Audi will be coming out with the lighter, cheaper R8 before Honda replaces the NSX unfortunately.

The NSX isn't faster in a straight line, but it often surprises others due to it's high redline and flat torque curve which let's it stay in lower gears longer. The 370Z is similar in that regard.
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My only experience with the NSX was a few years ago against my stage I 06 WRX. Ran the guy three times from a roll. As most of you know subys aren't exactly known for their rolling starts but I kept up with him most of the way. We shut it down all three times going about 110 and all three times he was only about a car length ahead. He had an aftermarket exhaust but what else I'm not sure. For those who aren't familiar the 06 WRX was capable of 13.9 on average with some, including my self, getting it down to 13.7-13.8 in stock trim. Stage 1 and my CBE didn't yeild a whole lot over stock in terms of power. I'm pretty sure if I had my Nismo Z back then I would have easily walked away from him.
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In S'pore,an NSX sold about $300,000.00 in the 90's,almost same the same price as the current GTR,so it is unfair to compare with the 370z,different class.
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