Nissan 370Z Forum  

Track Day Prep

Im seeing if we can make a checklist for 370Z track day prep. The checklist should include the necessary things the car needs prior to a track event. Some examples

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Track / Autocross / Drifting / Dragstrip


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-18-2010, 06:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Columbia SC
Posts: 77
Drives: 09 370Z
Rep Power: 16
RCGsupra is on a distinguished road
Default Track Day Prep

Im seeing if we can make a checklist for 370Z track day prep. The checklist should include the necessary things the car needs prior to a track event. Some examples would be oil cooler, brake pads/fluid, clutch fluid, etc. After the necessities would be performance items such as suspension, brake, and power items. Other inputs such as tools to bring and other items would be helpful as well. I have yet to track the Z so I don't have much to add right now, but I think this would be a good starting place for newbs. Thoughts?



-Rick
RCGsupra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2010, 10:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Nikon FM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Snoqualmie WA
Posts: 973
Drives: 03 996TT Porsche
Rep Power: 606
Nikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RCGsupra View Post
Im seeing if we can make a checklist for 370Z track day prep. The checklist should include the necessary things the car needs prior to a track event. Some examples would be oil cooler, brake pads/fluid, clutch fluid, etc. After the necessities would be performance items such as suspension, brake, and power items. Other inputs such as tools to bring and other items would be helpful as well. I have yet to track the Z so I don't have much to add right now, but I think this would be a good starting place for newbs. Thoughts?



-Rick
You have listed what is important up front: Oil cooler, brake pads capable for track use and high temp fluids are critical for having a fun time. The performance related items I would hold off on until getting used to the car and then add mods with precision. Too many changes at once is definitely not a good approach. After running a few times I'd recommend getting R-componds.

Tools:
Pump, temp gauge (check tire temp consistency), pressure gauge, a floor jack if you are switching out wheels and not driving them to the track, a socket that fits your lugs with accompanying torque ratchet.

Personal items:
Tons of water. Staying hydrated on a track day really helps my energy level and ability to concentrate.
__________________

Buddy Revell: "One man's sooner is another man's later"
Nikon FM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2010, 11:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Columbia SC
Posts: 77
Drives: 09 370Z
Rep Power: 16
RCGsupra is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikon FM View Post
You have listed what is important up front: Oil cooler, brake pads capable for track use and high temp fluids are critical for having a fun time. The performance related items I would hold off on until getting used to the car and then add mods with precision. Too many changes at once is definitely not a good approach. After running a few times I'd recommend getting R-componds.

Tools:
Pump, temp gauge (check tire temp consistency), pressure gauge, a floor jack if you are switching out wheels and not driving them to the track, a socket that fits your lugs with accompanying torque ratchet.

Personal items:
Tons of water. Staying hydrated on a track day really helps my energy level and ability to concentrate.

I totally agree with what you have said. My intent of this thread was not necessarily directed at personal advice for myself (not that I don't need any), but more of a one stop shop for road race prep. Maybe we can get a sticky and maybe even a new thread from scratch to start a checklist of track day essentials. We had a thread like this on supraforums and it was very helpful for making sure you are ready for the track. Just a thought.

I'll go ahead and start a list. Feel free to add to it.


Essentials:
Oil cooler
High performance brake pads/fluid
A good helmet (safety first)
Power steering cooler? (not sure if this is an issue yet)
Insurance (know if you are covered)

Performance:
Seat time (use your money to get experience in the car before you start adding to it)
Stainless Steel Brake Lines
Brake Ducts (maybe essential, don't know yet)
Better Tires
Sway Bars
Improved LSD
Coilovers
Exhaust
Intake
Tune
Brake upgrade
Extra set of wheels and R compounds (after a lot of experience on street tires)
Diff Cooler

Tools:
Basic tool set, just in case
Tire Gauge/Pump
Floor Jack/ Jack Stands (Changing wheels, brakes, checking for problems, etc.)
Tire Iron
Extra oil
Extra Brake fluid

Personal Items:
Water
Peanuts (unless you have non drowsy water)
Chairs
Long sleeve shirt/pants (most clubs require this
Food
Tent
Tarp
Advil
Camera

That's all that i can think of for now. I left off forced induction for now because I think that will add a lot more essential items such as cooling etc. That can be a side note if need be.

Last edited by RCGsupra; 09-25-2010 at 10:30 AM.
RCGsupra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2010, 04:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Valentino's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: RaceTrack
Posts: 349
Drives: SOLD 09,370z,M6
Rep Power: 305
Valentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Diff Cooler
__________________
Lou Fusz Nissan | KW V3 | SPL rear camber and toe bolt | OS Giken LSD | Nismo Diff cover | Engine Oil cooler | F.I. TDX Cat Back 18" Resonators | F.I. Resonated Test Pipes | Injen cold air intake | COBB AccessPORT | JWT Clutch Flywheel |
Valentino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2010, 08:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
spearfish25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Naples, FL
Posts: 4,117
Drives: to work
Rep Power: 1856
spearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to spearfish25
Default

This is misleading for anyone considering their FIRST track day with the car. For those individuals, here is a more honest necessity list.

You can go bone stock, but you will run into engine oil temp issues and potentially brake fade if you're an aggressive first-timer. I was conservative and my first track day was fine except for 260F engine temps.

To safely prepare your car for the track day and avoid any limiting mechanical issues, your first modifications should be:
1. high temp brake fluid
2. track brake pads
3. engine oil cooler
These three changes will keep you lapping all day long. Stainless steel brake lines are NOT a mandatory change and only change the feel of the pedal. I've never had a clutch issue on the track, so changing clutch fluid is not a mandatory to-do item.

Beyond those three items, the single best thing you can do to go faster is get more track time. Coil-overs, R-compounds, exhaust/intake, etc etc won't improve your times if you still can't drive at the limit and consistently. I'm still in this learning zone.
__________________
2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z
spearfish25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2010, 10:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Columbia SC
Posts: 77
Drives: 09 370Z
Rep Power: 16
RCGsupra is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spearfish25 View Post
This is misleading for anyone considering their FIRST track day with the car. For those individuals, here is a more honest necessity list.

You can go bone stock, but you will run into engine oil temp issues and potentially brake fade if you're an aggressive first-timer. I was conservative and my first track day was fine except for 260F engine temps.

To safely prepare your car for the track day and avoid any limiting mechanical issues, your first modifications should be:
1. high temp brake fluid
2. track brake pads
3. engine oil cooler
These three changes will keep you lapping all day long. Stainless steel brake lines are NOT a mandatory change and only change the feel of the pedal. I've never had a clutch issue on the track, so changing clutch fluid is not a mandatory to-do item.

Beyond those three items, the single best thing you can do to go faster is get more track time. Coil-overs, R-compounds, exhaust/intake, etc etc won't improve your times if you still can't drive at the limit and consistently. I'm still in this learning zone.

That's what I was trying to accomplish with the "essentials" list. Notice the SS brake lines are in the performance section, after seat time. As far as the clutch goes with people having issues, what would it hurt to do some preventive maintenance and put some motul or something in the clutch? I'm all about preventive maintenance especially when it comes to running your car hard. With that said, make sure you're not on the tail end of an oil change and it may be worth while doing an oil change shortly after your track event as well. Keep the inputs coming guys!
__________________
-Rick
09 370Z 6MT Sport/Touring. FI Exhaust
RCGsupra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2010, 10:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Columbia SC
Posts: 77
Drives: 09 370Z
Rep Power: 16
RCGsupra is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Valentino View Post
Diff Cooler
Do you feel this is essential? If so, then why (ie examples of diff issues on the track)?
__________________
-Rick
09 370Z 6MT Sport/Touring. FI Exhaust
RCGsupra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2010, 10:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Valentino's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: RaceTrack
Posts: 349
Drives: SOLD 09,370z,M6
Rep Power: 305
Valentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond reputeValentino has a reputation beyond repute
Default

The Diff cooler will fall in the "Performance" category. As i had issues with the diff heating up, acts weird and gets noisy after a couple of hot laps.
__________________
Lou Fusz Nissan | KW V3 | SPL rear camber and toe bolt | OS Giken LSD | Nismo Diff cover | Engine Oil cooler | F.I. TDX Cat Back 18" Resonators | F.I. Resonated Test Pipes | Injen cold air intake | COBB AccessPORT | JWT Clutch Flywheel |
Valentino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2010, 10:56 AM   #9 (permalink)
Car Audio Installer
 
bigaudiofanat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Magnolia DE
Posts: 8,342
Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x
Rep Power: 853
bigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to bigaudiofanat Send a message via Yahoo to bigaudiofanat Send a message via Skype™ to bigaudiofanat
Default

Just a tip referring to the water comment. Water actually makes you sleepy one way to counter this is peanuts.
__________________
Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know
Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com
Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below
https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/
bigaudiofanat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2010, 11:06 AM   #10 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
spearfish25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Naples, FL
Posts: 4,117
Drives: to work
Rep Power: 1856
spearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to spearfish25
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RCGsupra View Post
That's what I was trying to accomplish with the "essentials" list. Notice the SS brake lines are in the performance section, after seat time. As far as the clutch goes with people having issues, what would it hurt to do some preventive maintenance and put some motul or something in the clutch? I'm all about preventive maintenance especially when it comes to running your car hard. With that said, make sure you're not on the tail end of an oil change and it may be worth while doing an oil change shortly after your track event as well. Keep the inputs coming guys!
Ah, gotcha. I didn't read it closely enough. I would still take clutch fluid off that list. The problems people are having are sparse and not even track related. Sure I'd like RBF600 as my clutch fluid but it's honestly a non-issue on the track. I can't recall anyone that tracks their car complaining of a mushy clutch or boiled fluid. I've also done the power steering cooler upgrade but it's not necessary unless you're running front tires that are much wider than stock. I've never boiled fluid with the stock steering cooler.
__________________
2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

Last edited by spearfish25; 09-19-2010 at 11:10 AM.
spearfish25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2010, 12:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Nikon FM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Snoqualmie WA
Posts: 973
Drives: 03 996TT Porsche
Rep Power: 606
Nikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond reputeNikon FM has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat View Post
Just a tip referring to the water comment. Water actually makes you sleepy one way to counter this is peanuts.
Good point. Calorie intake is important as well as staying hydrated. Thanks
__________________

Buddy Revell: "One man's sooner is another man's later"
Nikon FM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2010, 01:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
spearfish25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Naples, FL
Posts: 4,117
Drives: to work
Rep Power: 1856
spearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to spearfish25
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat View Post
Just a tip referring to the water comment. Water actually makes you sleepy one way to counter this is peanuts.
Explain the physiology behind that one please.
__________________
2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z
spearfish25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2010, 06:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
RCZ
A True Z Fanatic
 
RCZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Miami
Posts: 6,403
Drives: '09 370Z
Rep Power: 1118
RCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to RCZ
Default

^ lol

You might as well wave that bs flag!
RCZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2010, 07:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
cossie1600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: californee way
Posts: 5,380
Drives: 370, Leaf
Rep Power: 30
cossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

A 5 gallon gas tank, car will fuel starve on long right turns!!!
cossie1600 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2010, 08:53 AM   #15 (permalink)
The370Z.com Sponsor
 
Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Loganville, GA
Posts: 5,944
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 2186
Mike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I've got over 3000 track miles on my car on the stock clutch fluid and never had a problem.

The only things I will add to the list are a pressure bleeder and extra brake fluid, just in case you do boil the brakes.
__________________
NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z
Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968
Mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Z1 Motorsports Track Prep Parts & Service Package NOW AVAILABLE! Dustin@Z1 Drivetrain/Engine 3 05-29-2012 10:17 AM
Looking for Recommendations:Track Brake/Tire Prep JSBZ Track / Autocross / Drifting / Dragstrip 16 02-19-2012 03:11 PM
Z1 Motorsports Track Prep Parts & Service Package NOW AVAILABLE! Dustin@Z1 Z1 Motorsports 9 08-18-2010 09:25 AM
Z1 Motorsports Track Prep Parts & Service Package NOW AVAILABLE! Dustin@Z1 Suspension/Brakes 1 08-13-2010 10:08 PM
Dealer Prep Blunders! OldGuy Nissan 370Z General Discussions 9 02-04-2010 09:30 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2