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Originally Posted by persian54 I love how on this forum, the 335i is looked down on, while on e90post, people look down on the Z But you shouldn't compare the

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Old 09-02-2010, 02:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I love how on this forum, the 335i is looked down on, while on e90post, people look down on the Z

But you shouldn't compare the 335i to the Z.. it's like comparing apples and oranges.

And calling a 335i boring... well maybe a stock one without an aero lip or anything.. but to each his own

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The wouldn't call the 335i boring based on its driving dynamics. It's just too utilatarian and it seems like every spoiled housewife or wannabe Jersey Shore look a like, on Long Island anyways, drives one. Your ride might be an exception, but you shouldn't have to modify a car for it to be significant. Comparing modded cars with stock is pointless for the purpose of this thread.

Comparing the Z to the 335I seems fair to me:


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The wouldn't call the 335i boring based on its driving dynamics. It's just too utilatarian and it seems like every spoiled housewife or wannabe Jersey Shore look a like, on Long Island anyways, drives one. Your ride might be an exception, but you shouldn't have to modify a car for it to be significant. Comparing modded cars with stock is pointless for the purpose of this thread.

Comparing the Z to the 335I seems fair to me:


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Well, stock 335i is by no means 'bad'
But remember that the OP said he raced a 335i with bolt ons.. so modding was relevant to the discussion at hand.

You're right when you say you shouldn't need to modify a car.

The main reason I was unhappy with the 335i stock is because prior to it I had a 996 Turbo.
They're completely difference cars
I wanted a more modern, and specifically a hard top vert, so i got the 335i.

The Z... for the little bit that I have driven it... seems to satisfy my urges enough for the next year or so (I tend to change cars every 18 months, on avg)
I say I won't mod it now... that's what I said with the 335i... but who knows.

People are saying you need an oil cooler to track it well... just like how on the 335i, people said a FMIC would be great.

Guess many cars, be it a sports car, a sport luxury car, or whatever, when being pushed on the track, need to modified.

Though it seems the GTR doesn't... but the after track costs are high...

Anywayyysss

Stock vs stock, a 335i and Z seem to be pretty even on a straight (with the slight advantage to the 335i due to the massive tq at such a low rpm)

A Z feels like it handles better (haven't driven it enough to give a valid answer)

Both are great cars... but they are different... a 335i is more comfortable and roomy... the Z is more of a true sports car and is a deal cheaper.
A loaded Z costs 42k, a base 335i is 44k. but a loaded 335i is about 53k (09 prices, not sure on the new 11s much)

If I could afford it, I'd take a Nismo for the track, and a 335i as a DD.
but that's just my .02....

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^well here is the misconception that you have. stock 335 is not as fast as a stock Z. Since you live local, there is a track day in california speedway coming up and you can bring a stock 335 (E90 92 or 93) and you will see how much harder the Z pulls. If you can't do the track day, you can PM me we can make other arrangements.

I can also explain to you why they have very similar numbers on the paper:

You can pull 2.0 60ft times without efford on the BMW even with its stock runflats. Work on it a little bit you will get sub 2.0 60ft time.
My very first ever launch in my 335 was at the track with zero practice and i pulled 2.01 60ft time with just 800 miles on the car. I can almost guarantee that i can never brake the 2.10 barrier in my Z ever with street tires.

Every 0.1 60ft usually yields 0.2 seconds off of your ET. That is sagnificant advantage that the BMW has over the Z. Any rolling speeds Z will pull ahead with ease from any stock 335.... Trust me i have done this countless times with these cars.....
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^well here is the misconception that you have. stock 335 is not as fast as a stock Z. Since you live local, there is a track day in california speedway coming up and you can bring a stock 335 (E90 92 or 93) and you will see how much harder the Z pulls. If you can't do the track day, you can PM me we can make other arrangements.

I can also explain to you why they have very similar numbers on the paper:

You can pull 2.0 60ft times without efford on the BMW even with its stock runflats. Work on it a little bit you will get sub 2.0 60ft time.
My very first ever launch in my 335 was at the track with zero practice and i pulled 2.01 60ft time with just 800 miles on the car. I can almost guarantee that i can never brake the 2.10 barrier in my Z ever with street tires.

Every 0.1 60ft usually yields 0.2 seconds off of your ET. That is sagnificant advantage that the BMW has over the Z. Any rolling speeds Z will pull ahead with ease from any stock 335.... Trust me i have done this countless times with these cars.....
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Not sure if I can make it to the track day

We need to get this done in the next few weeks as my car will be gone

btw, remember an e90/92 will kill a e93 stock for stock too.

Tbh, I'm a bit scarred as my fuel pump is dying (again)
but... since I'm lemoning it.. i could care less anymore. let it die again...
Though it doesn't handle well, I never got an alignment after I took off my suspension; since I don't care about the car anymore...

I guess maybe the Z drivers I've gone against weren't the best.

since even a fully modded 6MT 335i can lose to a stock 6AT 335i depending on the driver.
I know that if you gave a 6MT 335i, I wouldn't be as fast.
I haven't owned a daily 6MT in a long time.

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I commute 70 miles a day in Central Florida and I see at most 3-4 370Z's a week. I definitely see way more 335's. I probably see at least 2-3 Porsche's every day though.
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I commute 70 miles a day in Central Florida and I see at most 3-4 370Z's a week. I definitely see way more 335's. I probably see at least 2-3 Porsche's every day though.
It's the same way in tallahassee. But I see about 5-6 370Z's a month. Saw a silver one today on campus actually and was really surprise There should be a all Z day in Florida!

As far as the 335i goes? they are too common and every "Miami Jersey Shore" kid has one. I can't wait till I am supercharged, than I can walk on these fckrs. My friend has one that is full bolt on, and is about to get a piggyback. Can't stand that his **** is faster than mine.. well in a straight line anyways
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I love my e92! I came from a z33 now I'm coming back from my euro trip back to the z34 can't wait. They are both unique fast cars. You can't go wrong with either of them women love em both!
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Both cars are awesome. I really do love the 370 and with boltons they are very respectable cars. My boy has a bolton Nismo 370 and that car is pure sex!!! Stock for stock it's a drivers race between both cars, basically whoever messes up looses. Now you say 6at vs 370 and I'd probably give it to the 6at as they don't drop boost while shifting and the shitlfts are quick. I tested this between wifey's car and mine. Her sedan would pull a solid 1.5 cars on me up to 120ish stock for stock.
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Call me crazy , but my BMW dealer has a 335i Sedan , in the blue color with 12,500 miles in their lot. It caught my eye passing the dealer and I have been toying with the idea of possibly making a move on it...


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335i at my dealer

Im pretty confident I could get them down to 27ish...

If I could find a 335xi for same price with low miles I would be even more serious about it.
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Thats not what he said you dummy...
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You're trading the Z in on a 335i?
Nothing wrong with that... I think the other way around is crazier than going from a Z to 335.

I did go from a 335 to a Z and the only reason was because the 335 was "too" perfect of a car. I wanted more character, rawness in the car and the 370z is filling that role perfectly...
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Nothing wrong with that... I think the other way around is crazier than going from a Z to 335.

I did go from a 335 to a Z and the only reason was because the 335 was "too" perfect of a car. I wanted more character, rawness in the car and the 370z is filling that role perfectly...
I can't say I agree with that. Too perfect of a car? If it was perfect it would have more character and rawness like you said. In fact I might even go far enough to say that the 335i coupe is flawed in the fact that is lacks character... guess that's why they offer the m3?
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