370z vs 335i Coupe

b1adesofcha0s · 04-07-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LostMarine

right, but realistically, we are comparing factory fresh unmodded cars. once you start modding, anything becomes the "BEST"

so right off the showroom floor..

and yes, wants and needs are subjective. so again. the absolute best of the WANTS and NEEDs.

do you WANT a DCT/DSG trans?
Do you want BBK
Do you want LSD
Do you Want a powerful car?
Do you want a refined sporty and comfortable interior?

what other cars offer the TOTAL package for the same price?

(and yes, i am remaining civil here, I dont want a banstick raping

. if you want to see me aggro, look into me and Nismo370z and Mrsqueeze arguments on another site

)

I didn't say anything about modding, I was talking used 911 vs new M3. You could also net a used GT-R in that range. Both of which would beat an M3 on a track and have 4 seats.

cossie1600 · 04-07-2011, 02:02 PM

how dare you, the nismo oowners are going to kick your arse. its like calling a 370 a 350! i dont have problems with where the cars ended up, i just think some of the gaps are a little questionable. i guess i should be happy that i made it through the track with just pads, brake fluid, oil cooler and some nice tire

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Originally Posted by haggomyeggo

well i believe the article did mention that the NISMO they had never really felt like it was putting down pthe 350hp. It didnt even feel as fast as their long term 370Z sport package so who knows. Could be high heat oil stuff. But they never got a true hot lap because of oil temps and brakes going soft.

Prius racing, the new one make series

You want to see a good driver, at the driving academy for the state police they hustle old crown vics around their racetrack in a manner that you would not believe. Auto Crown vics that are about 10 years old. Its amazing how fast they get them around. oh and they have to do it wet as well......

haggomyeggo · 04-07-2011, 02:21 PM

yeah the NISMO owners group is going to screech like 10,000 Eagles at me for my comments.......

Pelican170 · 04-07-2011, 02:34 PM

I raced my buddys 2010 with one of those Dinan ECU chips. I was stock and i was pulling away from him from 3rd - 4th gear...

cossie1600 · 04-07-2011, 02:35 PM

lol

shadoquad · 04-07-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

I raced my buddys 2010 with one of those Dinan ECU chips. I was stock and i was pulling away from him from 3rd - 4th gear...

hmmm... His must not have come with the DSG and comfort interior, or he'd have had you.

Red__Zed · 04-07-2011, 02:40 PM

Cossie-- the nismo is actually slower around VIR than a base/sport z, mostly due to wait. They were also running it bone stock, and the awful stock brake pads are going to limit aggressiveness. Beyond this, the lack of a true hot lap pretty easily explains the differences. Their times are usually indicative of what a car is capable of in good but not godly hands.

Pelican170 · 04-07-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

hmmm... His must not have come with the DSG and comfort interior, or he'd have had you.

haha, now that i think of he, he may have an "ix". ill have to reconfirm this. I just know he keeps spending tons of money on Dinan parts, and from what i know, those parts are kinda worthless...

haggomyeggo · 04-07-2011, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

I raced my buddys 2010 with one of those Dinan ECU chips. I was stock and i was pulling away from him from 3rd - 4th gear...

335i??

the dinan chips dont really do too much. Find someone with a JB3+ and that chip makes a big difference. with just the chip i think they are getting something like 80hp to the wheels. onlyu 30-40 with the Dinan setup. Dinan is kinda conservative but backed by warranty

Pelican170 · 04-07-2011, 02:51 PM

You guys really think a 335i vs. the 370z both stock, the 335i would really come out on top?

GZ3 · 04-07-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

You guys really think a 335i vs. the 370z both stock, the 335i would really come out on top?

hell no!

shadoquad · 04-07-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

You guys really think a 335i vs. the 370z both stock, the 335i would really come out on top?

No, although I'm sure you'll agree that racing is more about the driver than the car.

lostkhan · 04-07-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

hell no!

How about a 135i? I smell drag race!!!!

cossie1600 · 04-07-2011, 03:16 PM

sir, its going to cost you 1000 dollars per .1 sec

LostMarine · 04-07-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I didn't say anything about modding, I was talking used 911 vs new M3. You could also net a used GT-R in that range. Both of which would beat an M3 on a track and have 4 seats.

no, you didnt , but someone else did, about a used 997. yes, used you can do plenty of things.

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

hmmm... His must not have come with the DSG and comfort interior, or he'd have had you.

335's didnt come with DCT until The N55 motor. a JB4'd 335 wil destroy all but FI 350/370's

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

haha, now that i think of he, he may have an "ix". ill have to reconfirm this. I just know he keeps spending tons of money on Dinan parts, and from what i know, those parts are kinda worthless...

yes ,dinan is worthless, 10x price for 1/4 performance

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Originally Posted by haggomyeggo

335i??

the dinan chips dont really do too much. Find someone with a JB3+ and that chip makes a big difference. with just the chip i think they are getting something like 80hp to the wheels. onlyu 30-40 with the Dinan setup. Dinan is kinda conservative but backed by warranty

JB4 now

and dinan warranty, no longer bmw warranty

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

sir, its going to cost you 1000 dollars per .1 sec

nope, first 80hp is $500, everything after that get s pricey

but to get back on topic, a properly tuned 335/135 will destroy all but FI 350/370's,and even then its going to be close. with a slight edge to the 335's. Im sure a few people will chime in here shortly now that we have gone this route

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04-07-2011, 02:21 PM	#303 (permalink)
haggomyeggo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: IL Posts: 1,723 Drives: Steves old cars Rep Power: 17	yeah the NISMO owners group is going to screech like 10,000 Eagles at me for my comments.......

04-07-2011, 02:34 PM	#304 (permalink)
Pelican170 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 972 Drives: Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 16	I raced my buddys 2010 with one of those Dinan ECU chips. I was stock and i was pulling away from him from 3rd - 4th gear...

04-07-2011, 02:35 PM	#305 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	lol

04-07-2011, 02:40 PM	#307 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	Cossie-- the nismo is actually slower around VIR than a base/sport z, mostly due to wait. They were also running it bone stock, and the awful stock brake pads are going to limit aggressiveness. Beyond this, the lack of a true hot lap pretty easily explains the differences. Their times are usually indicative of what a car is capable of in good but not godly hands.

04-07-2011, 02:51 PM	#310 (permalink)
Pelican170 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 972 Drives: Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 16	You guys really think a 335i vs. the 370z both stock, the 335i would really come out on top?

04-07-2011, 03:16 PM	#314 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	sir, its going to cost you 1000 dollars per .1 sec