No defensiveness or animosity, just a better knowledge of both platforms than you.

The 1 series platform has some real suspension issues well known in the motorsports world. How many 1 series do you see racing in Grand Am? Or any other serious series? Teams have made assessment and have said no thanks to econo box suspension on this overweight car.

I havent met a track yet that doesnt put a premium on HP but given new Mustang holds nearly 100 hp advantage and a 370Z Nismo can equal it or even better a mustangs times on some tracks I think that is alone indicates handling superiority of the Z. Also very clear AX guys in US made pony cars dont want the Z to run in their classes - most of them say the Z has a suspension advantage they cant overcome. LOL!

135i is very nice little econo car but its overpriced by about $5K. Seems like your trying to justify the purchase to us? I can understand how you were seduced by nicer interior and turbo power, but the car falls flat on performance side for serious drivers like me. I spent plenty of time in the 135i and honestly can say I was impressed with it as a commute car but not as a track enthusiast car. Lots of people outside of the 370Z world concur with that opinion.

Can we close this thread now its sort of getting boring.

No clue. Can't be too bad if I haven't noticed it?

You got me there...I can't argue with somebody who is a super important professional racecar driver. Get over yourself!! I have only said the 135 is great FOR ME because I use it as a DD and will be tracking it. It's fast as hell and is going to be a lot of fun on the track. No need to turn into a jacka55 over a former 370 owner simply sharing his experience with a different car. I'm excited to see just how it compares time-wise with the 370 on a racetrack. I wouldn't be surprised if the 370 can outhandle a lot of other cars (especially the 135) in a parking lot.

I really don't understand this at all. Never talked $%&# about the 370. I loved mine a lot, and still do. I don't think there is any question I didn't buy a little BMW because it was a track beast...I got it because I didn't want a fourth car, it's roomier, more comfortable, and better in traffic where I spend 99% of my time. It's just a bonus that a thousand dollars can get you what it takes ten thousand to in the Z.

Can you name a single person that has blown their turbos (w/ proof) because of the tune? I'm on e90 a lot and I can MAYBE count one or two (and it wasn't tune related ;)) It was oil starvation from a faulty line to the turbo. He knew it was bad and had problems with it in the past. Seriously though, the stuff you spew is what leads to these "zomg" rumors.

From one 335i owner to another... 360rwhp is a bit stretched. Maaaaybe 350 at 12-14 psi tune only. Our cars dyno stock around 260-290 depending on elevation and conditions. For example, in Houston I dynoed stock at 282, after tune I was in the 330 range at 12psi. After I installed my dp's, fmic, exhaust I was around 380-390. Then w/ meth I can jump above 400rwhp on pump 93.

8 psi is stock boost. 360rwhp is far-fetched from tune only. See my post above. Now don't get me wrong, at 15-18psi you can easily be 350-390rwhp, but without any supporting mods you're raggin on the engine.

The piggybacks, a la JuiceBox, Procede, COBB, net a lot more than flashes currently.

Agreed...I was running 93 octane at about 14.5 psi. On my 135i they dyno at 340whp with 91 and map 1 on JB4.

I have a meth injection in the mail ;)

Sounds like a logical choice for you. No argument there.

Your approval just made my day.

Yeah, but you still lost to an E36 M with bolts on :tiphat:

I just sold my Z for an 09 335i coupe... I don't regret it at all, but comparing the two is silly and will never end..especially on a Z forum.

On the BMW forums the discussion was at least civil. Don't you f'ing love that N54 though?

Yeah man... the build quality, low end torque and comfort are way better.

I got an 09 coupe for 32k... with 8k miles. They guy never serviced or drove the thing so it's at the dealer now getting all the services done (which are free :))

but yea driving it before that was... awesome.

I dont think anyone disputed the build quality and comfort nods go tp BMW. Thats not the MO of a Z. The Z is a pure sports car in every sense of the word. The 335 is more of a touring car. I like them a lot. If I had the scratch it would be at the top of my list for a daily driver, in white w/ red interior and black rims with a polished lip. And I'd make my Z a full on time attack car.

Getting them used is the way to go. All the German cars are grotesquely overpriced new.

Kudos on your purchase! Enjoy it!