NT-01 vs BFG R1 vs Toyo R888

cossie1600 · 06-13-2010, 06:59 PM

Anyone have experience in them? I have experience in R888, I hated it and I refuse to get them again. I just want to see how the BFG R1 and Nitto NT-01 compare to it in terms of life and grip? R888 can easily heat cycle out long before the tread wears down, what about the NT-01 and the BFG R1?

Thanks

03threefiftyz · 06-13-2010, 08:24 PM

R1 is more of a "full face" R-comp.....treadwear of 40. It isn't really a fair comparison. The R1 (BFG) and R6 (hoosier) are a better comparison.....which the hoosiers win hands down IMO. The NT01 is a fine choice though. Same compound as the RA1 (toyo).

ChrisSlicks · 06-13-2010, 08:45 PM

I have a set of NT-01 for this car and I have used the R-888's on other cars. The NT-01's have more dry grip than the R-888, I like them a lot except they howl at any speed over 40mph. As already stated you can't compare the BFG R1 because that is a low treadwear full slick.

cossie1600 · 06-13-2010, 10:19 PM

RA1 is a tire that stays consistent until they cord. R888 basically turn into garbage before treads wear down. How does the NT01 compare, is it coser to RA1 or R888?

Thanks

I cant carry 4 tires in the car, so R1 might be out of the question

03threefiftyz · 06-14-2010, 02:57 AM

NT01 is the same compound as the RA1. Only difference is in the tread block design.

Mike · 06-14-2010, 10:07 AM

I have only bought used race scrub R888s, so I can't really say how they last, but I am currently using the BFG R-1s. Sure they aren't quite as nice as Hoosiers, but they are a lot cheaper and last a long time and do have a lot more grip than the R888s. I've got at least 4 track weekends on this set and they haven't lost any grip and still have a bit of tread left on them.

corner3garage · 06-14-2010, 01:19 PM

Out of the 3 the r1's should be the most grippy. This is because there are only 2 circumferential groves on the tread so its almost a slick. nt01s feel pretty grippy but they are the same compound as the r888.

cossie1600 · 06-14-2010, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike

I have only bought used race scrub R888s, so I can't really say how they last, but I am currently using the BFG R-1s. Sure they aren't quite as nice as Hoosiers, but they are a lot cheaper and last a long time and do have a lot more grip than the R888s. I've got at least 4 track weekends on this set and they haven't lost any grip and still have a bit of tread left on them.

How do you get the R1s to the track? Do you drive there?

Scuff R888s are garbage, I used them and they sucked. The RA1s can go till they cord

batman_4 · 06-14-2010, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

The NT-01's have more dry grip than the R-888, I like them a lot except they howl at any speed over 40mph. As already stated you can't compare the BFG R1 because that is a low treadwear full slick.

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FairladyFan · 06-15-2010, 07:53 PM

+1 for NT01

R888's look great but they are too loud to daily imo. Just like A048's

if you decied to daily drive on them .

BFG R1's as everyone already mentioned are in a different class.

Mike · 06-15-2010, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600

How do you get the R1s to the track? Do you drive there?

Scuff R888s are garbage, I used them and they sucked. The RA1s can go till they cord

yea, you were a vette guy too. I bought them for the vette initially but used the fronts all around on the Z. Anyhoo, I trailer my car to the track. I can drive it short distances though, and I really don't think if you do a half hour drive or so to the track at highway speeds that you really put any heat cycles into the tires. I have driven Hoosiers on my 350z all over the place, Savannah to Atlanta, etc, and not really seen any decrease in performance.

cossie1600 · 06-16-2010, 12:02 AM

I did it on the RA1 for years in my 350 where I drove 10 hours to and from track. The tires performed flawlessly until they cord. THe garbage R888 would die out before I even wear down the treads. I just want to see if I would get something like the RA1 with the NT01 or performance of the R888. 10 hours might be too much to do on the R1, but I just want to see if there are any first hand experiences. I am not trying to street drive it, I just have to drive the car to the track since I can only carry 2 max at a time. I would install a small hitch if they weren't so expensive.

I used the R888 on my Corvette and RX-8, absolute garbage

KillerBee370 · 06-17-2010, 01:13 PM

You might find this useful...

03threefiftyz · 06-20-2010, 06:39 PM

I don't really agree with some of that chart above....the r888's don't seem to be any faster (perhaps even slower) than the older gen NT01 and RA1's. Also, need to add star specs to the street tire list.

LateralG'z · 06-20-2010, 11:27 PM

thanks for posting that chart

06-13-2010, 06:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	NT-01 vs BFG R1 vs Toyo R888 Anyone have experience in them? I have experience in R888, I hated it and I refuse to get them again. I just want to see how the BFG R1 and Nitto NT-01 compare to it in terms of life and grip? R888 can easily heat cycle out long before the tread wears down, what about the NT-01 and the BFG R1? Thanks

06-13-2010, 08:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	I have a set of NT-01 for this car and I have used the R-888's on other cars. The NT-01's have more dry grip than the R-888, I like them a lot except they howl at any speed over 40mph. As already stated you can't compare the BFG R1 because that is a low treadwear full slick. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

06-14-2010, 10:07 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	I have only bought used race scrub R888s, so I can't really say how they last, but I am currently using the BFG R-1s. Sure they aren't quite as nice as Hoosiers, but they are a lot cheaper and last a long time and do have a lot more grip than the R888s. I've got at least 4 track weekends on this set and they haven't lost any grip and still have a bit of tread left on them. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

06-14-2010, 01:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
corner3garage The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 9,879 Drives: 240sx, 350z, 370z Rep Power: 35	Out of the 3 the r1's should be the most grippy. This is because there are only 2 circumferential groves on the tread so its almost a slick. nt01s feel pretty grippy but they are the same compound as the r888. __________________ Corner3motorsports.com

06-20-2010, 11:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
LateralG'z Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 876 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 17	thanks for posting that chart __________________ 2010 Mag Black, 6MT,

06-13-2010, 08:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
03threefiftyz Track Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: MD Posts: 536 Drives: 03 350z 6mt Rep Power: 16	R1 is more of a "full face" R-comp.....treadwear of 40. It isn't really a fair comparison. The R1 (BFG) and R6 (hoosier) are a better comparison.....which the hoosiers win hands down IMO. The NT01 is a fine choice though. Same compound as the RA1 (toyo).

06-13-2010, 10:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	RA1 is a tire that stays consistent until they cord. R888 basically turn into garbage before treads wear down. How does the NT01 compare, is it coser to RA1 or R888? Thanks I cant carry 4 tires in the car, so R1 might be out of the question

06-14-2010, 02:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
03threefiftyz Track Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: MD Posts: 536 Drives: 03 350z 6mt Rep Power: 16	NT01 is the same compound as the RA1. Only difference is in the tread block design.

06-15-2010, 07:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
FairladyFan Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: California Posts: 12 Drives: 09' 370Z, 70' 240Z Rep Power: 15	+1 for NT01 R888's look great but they are too loud to daily imo. Just like A048's if you decied to daily drive on them . BFG R1's as everyone already mentioned are in a different class.

06-16-2010, 12:02 AM	#12 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	I did it on the RA1 for years in my 350 where I drove 10 hours to and from track. The tires performed flawlessly until they cord. THe garbage R888 would die out before I even wear down the treads. I just want to see if I would get something like the RA1 with the NT01 or performance of the R888. 10 hours might be too much to do on the R1, but I just want to see if there are any first hand experiences. I am not trying to street drive it, I just have to drive the car to the track since I can only carry 2 max at a time. I would install a small hitch if they weren't so expensive. I used the R888 on my Corvette and RX-8, absolute garbage

06-17-2010, 01:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
KillerBee370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal baby! Age: 51 Posts: 5,964 Drives: with passion Rep Power: 321	You might find this useful...

06-20-2010, 06:39 PM	#14 (permalink)
03threefiftyz Track Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: MD Posts: 536 Drives: 03 350z 6mt Rep Power: 16	I don't really agree with some of that chart above....the r888's don't seem to be any faster (perhaps even slower) than the older gen NT01 and RA1's. Also, need to add star specs to the street tire list.

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