First track experience today ! Some good, some really bad

ChrisSlicks · 03-30-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DDMotorsports

I did two 20 minute sessions, and two "time attack" sessions, which consisted of a brisk warm-up lap, and 3 hard laps each.

In the second 20 minute session I pushed the car as hard as I could for as long as I could specifically to test the oil cooler. It got to 260 degrees about half way through then didn't budge for the other half. Then also, on the cool down laps it would get back down to about 220-230 fairly quickly.

What was the ambient temperature that day?

M.Bonanni · 03-30-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

What was the ambient temperature that day?

high of 76 degrees.

ChrisSlicks · 03-30-2009, 02:52 PM

If it gets hotter do you think the oil cooler will hold up, or do you think you might need to move up a size?

Thanks for the info, very exciting

M.Bonanni · 03-30-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

If it gets hotter do you think the oil cooler will hold up, or do you think you might need to move up a size?

Thanks for the info, very exciting

Judging by how it pegged at 260 and then wouldn't get any hotter, I would think that we will be ok. We'll find out this summer. If it can survive a Vegas track day in the summer, it can survive anything.

Musashi · 03-30-2009, 03:20 PM

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...mp-issues.html

Zpil0t6 · 03-31-2009, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDMotorsports

I did two 20 minute sessions, and two "time attack" sessions, which consisted of a brisk warm-up lap, and 3 hard laps each.

In the second 20 minute session I pushed the car as hard as I could for as long as I could specifically to test the oil cooler. It got to 260 degrees about half way through then didn't budge for the other half. Then also, on the cool down laps it would get back down to about 220-230 fairly quickly.

Shameless plug!!LOL

Quite a few oil coolers will work in this case....obviously you added more VOLUME , correct? And what about oil weight and type???

Bye the way . Good job!

M.Bonanni · 03-31-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zpil0t6

Shameless plug!!LOL

Quite a few oil coolers will work in this case....obviously you added more VOLUME , correct? And what about oil weight and type???

Bye the way . Good job!

Yeah, thats the good news. Most oil coolers should work! Of course volume was added, thats pretty much common sense. In the case of the Mishimoto cooler, it added 1 quart. And for the oil, I used Royal Purple 5w30.

Zeto · 04-18-2009, 06:32 PM

A lot of good info here

alan93rsa · 04-19-2009, 10:06 PM

Friday at Mid-Ohio I hit 275F in 5 laps. 2 warm-up, 2 traffic with the last lap clear it hit 275. I quit at that point. I've begun putting my parts list together for my oil cooler.

On the plus side the car felt pretty good with only the Eibach springs and Hotchkis bars.

RCZ · 04-19-2009, 11:17 PM

Did you try the car without the springs and bars? I mean tracked it?

alan93rsa · 04-20-2009, 01:28 PM

Yes, I had the Eibach springs and Hotchkis bars on the car. It didn't handle bad at all. For a basically stock car that didn't pound on you I was happy.

I let Dave Schardt from Forgeline take it out and thought the car has a lot of potential.

Alignment after the install:

Left Front Camber -1.8
Right Front Camber -1.6
Left Caster 5.3
Right Caster 5.0
Left Front Toe 0.00"
Right Front Toe 0.00"
Left Rear Camber -2.7
Right Rear Camber -2.6 (Couldn't get more positive out of the rear camber)
Left Rear Toe 0.05"
Right Rear Toe 0.04"

sensi09 · 04-20-2009, 01:51 PM

^Good info Alan, but I think RCZ was asking if the springs and bars made a big difference compared to stock.

alan93rsa · 04-20-2009, 03:58 PM

I never drove the car on the track stock. On the street the ride seemed a bit softer over the small bumps.

The front bar has no adjustment and the rear has three points. I had it set a the softest setting for the rear. On stock tires the car felt fairly neutral. I'm sure a little over-steer could be dialed in.

Next up will be the oil cooler, exhaust, intake and R compounds.

RCZ · 04-21-2009, 10:04 PM

R comps so soon?

I personally think R Comps should be one of the last things you do because they take the car to a level where you think you are going fast, but the tires are doing all the work... Only once I am able to get the most performance, when I know I the only thing holding me back are the tires, thats when I go to slicks.

Thats me though, you may have a different opinion and way of doing things.

Thanks for letting us know about your setup too.

travisjb · 04-21-2009, 10:50 PM

I agree re holding off on the slicks until the rest is dialed in... I may even do 3-4 more events before switching to r888s

04-19-2009, 10:06 PM	#129 (permalink)
alan93rsa Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 412 Drives: 16 Cayman GT4 Red Rep Power: 220	Friday at Mid-Ohio I hit 275F in 5 laps. 2 warm-up, 2 traffic with the last lap clear it hit 275. I quit at that point. I've begun putting my parts list together for my oil cooler. On the plus side the car felt pretty good with only the Eibach springs and Hotchkis bars. __________________ 16 Cayman GT4, Carmine Red, Buckets, PCCB etc.

04-20-2009, 01:28 PM	#131 (permalink)
alan93rsa Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 412 Drives: 16 Cayman GT4 Red Rep Power: 220	Yes, I had the Eibach springs and Hotchkis bars on the car. It didn't handle bad at all. For a basically stock car that didn't pound on you I was happy. I let Dave Schardt from Forgeline take it out and thought the car has a lot of potential. Alignment after the install: Left Front Camber -1.8 Right Front Camber -1.6 Left Caster 5.3 Right Caster 5.0 Left Front Toe 0.00" Right Front Toe 0.00" Left Rear Camber -2.7 Right Rear Camber -2.6 (Couldn't get more positive out of the rear camber) Left Rear Toe 0.05" Right Rear Toe 0.04" __________________ 16 Cayman GT4, Carmine Red, Buckets, PCCB etc. Last edited by alan93rsa; 04-20-2009 at 01:37 PM.

04-20-2009, 03:58 PM	#133 (permalink)
alan93rsa Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 412 Drives: 16 Cayman GT4 Red Rep Power: 220	I never drove the car on the track stock. On the street the ride seemed a bit softer over the small bumps. The front bar has no adjustment and the rear has three points. I had it set a the softest setting for the rear. On stock tires the car felt fairly neutral. I'm sure a little over-steer could be dialed in. Next up will be the oil cooler, exhaust, intake and R compounds. __________________ 16 Cayman GT4, Carmine Red, Buckets, PCCB etc.

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ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	If it gets hotter do you think the oil cooler will hold up, or do you think you might need to move up a size? Thanks for the info, very exciting

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Musashi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 357 Drives: 09 370Z 6speed Rep Power: 606	http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...mp-issues.html

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Zeto Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North NJ Age: 40 Posts: 766 Drives: 09 Pearl White 370Z Rep Power: 267	A lot of good info here

04-19-2009, 11:17 PM	#130 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Did you try the car without the springs and bars? I mean tracked it?

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sensi09 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: so cal Posts: 449 Drives: _ Rep Power: 16	^Good info Alan, but I think RCZ was asking if the springs and bars made a big difference compared to stock.

04-21-2009, 10:04 PM	#134 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	R comps so soon? I personally think R Comps should be one of the last things you do because they take the car to a level where you think you are going fast, but the tires are doing all the work... Only once I am able to get the most performance, when I know I the only thing holding me back are the tires, thats when I go to slicks. Thats me though, you may have a different opinion and way of doing things. Thanks for letting us know about your setup too.

04-21-2009, 10:50 PM	#135 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	I agree re holding off on the slicks until the rest is dialed in... I may even do 3-4 more events before switching to r888s