Doing an HPDE (level 1) @ Sebring, Oil Cooler needed?

flashburn · 03-26-2010, 09:09 AM

So I'm looking into doing an HPDE at Sebring in either June or October. I've never done any sort of tracking before, and thought this would be a great way to possibly get into it. For just doing the level 1 portion of an HPDE am I going to need a Oil Cooler?

Also, any comments and/or tips to a HPDE/track noobie would be appreciated! Thanks.

m4a1mustang · 03-26-2010, 09:10 AM

Yes! Temps are going to be up there around that time I'd imagine.

flashburn · 03-26-2010, 09:35 AM

That blows. I'm a bit worried about reliability issues with installing an Oil Cooler since I use this car as a DD for around 70 miles a day.

m4a1mustang · 03-26-2010, 09:37 AM

I think reliability with these kits is largely dependant on the quality of the install. Do it right and maintain it properly and it should be fine.

I haven't done mine yet... Modshack's oil cooler thread is pretty damn informative, and the experiences of a few of our members who unfortunately had line failures has really helped us figure out what we need for a proper setup. I think I'm definitely going to get my lines put together at a hydraulic shop just to eliminate my inexperience from the equation.

flashburn · 03-26-2010, 09:40 AM

I probably just need to find a good shop in the Orlando/Deland area to do the work for me. I'm already planning on getting a CBE, HFC's, and possibly a NST Pulley installed.

vipor · 03-26-2010, 11:21 AM

If you plan on going 100% and it's not a mostly open and straight track then yes. In Feb on a 1.3 mile track with 11 turns I definitely needed it. I think I touched 240 even with a 19row.

flashburn · 03-26-2010, 11:42 AM

It's 3.7 miles, for 20 minute stretches.

vipor · 03-26-2010, 11:45 AM

From the looks of things you'll be alright on that track. 20min sessions are pretty short too. You might hit 260 if you push it real hard. Could be a good testing situation for testing the necessity of a cooler.

vipor · 03-26-2010, 11:47 AM

I lied, we were on the 1.7. went CW for 2 sessions then reversed for the rest of that day and the next (6 more sessions) due to some water between Ricochet and Little Bend.

flashburn · 03-26-2010, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor

From the looks of things you'll be alright on that track. 20min sessions are pretty short too. You might hit 260 if you push it real hard. Could be a good testing situation for testing the necessity of a cooler.

Okay, that's good to hear. I figure October should be a tad bit cooler than June (maybe), so that might be better. Worst case is I can't push it for the entire 20 minutes, which for my first outing would probably be okay.

I'll probably post in the Southeast forum and see if anyone has done an HPDE at Sebring yet with their 370Z.

flashburn · 03-26-2010, 12:43 PM

Looks like they are actually 25 minute sessions. I'm still thinking about trying it out once before deciding on whether or not I need to buy a cooler.

vipor · 03-26-2010, 12:59 PM

25mins shouldn't be that bad with such a large track. Just keep an eye on your oil temp and log it so you can let everyone know how it goes. It's not like your car will get hurt, just make go into protection (happens way too early IMO)

cossie1600 · 03-26-2010, 01:15 PM

If you are worried about heat, short shift. You will be amazed at the difference in temp by just shifting 500RPM earlier

vipor · 03-26-2010, 01:21 PM

Yeah when I was doing my event I set my shift light to like 7200 so it would start flashing at 6700. That thing was going off ALL THE TIME, so I was definitely running it harder than probably necessary. After I got my lines down and was holding my speed in the turns my instructor was actually telling me to shift into 5th at some points and to stay in 4th more often lol. At first I was staying in 3rd the whole time lol.

CrownR426 · 03-26-2010, 04:08 PM

Be concerned about your brakes,tires,alignments,etc...

03-26-2010, 09:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
flashburn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,884 Drives: '12 Corvette GS 6M Rep Power: 19	Doing an HPDE (level 1) @ Sebring, Oil Cooler needed? So I'm looking into doing an HPDE at Sebring in either June or October. I've never done any sort of tracking before, and thought this would be a great way to possibly get into it. For just doing the level 1 portion of an HPDE am I going to need a Oil Cooler? Also, any comments and/or tips to a HPDE/track noobie would be appreciated! Thanks.

03-26-2010, 09:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Yes! Temps are going to be up there around that time I'd imagine. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

03-26-2010, 09:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I think reliability with these kits is largely dependant on the quality of the install. Do it right and maintain it properly and it should be fine. I haven't done mine yet... Modshack's oil cooler thread is pretty damn informative, and the experiences of a few of our members who unfortunately had line failures has really helped us figure out what we need for a proper setup. I think I'm definitely going to get my lines put together at a hydraulic shop just to eliminate my inexperience from the equation. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

03-26-2010, 11:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	If you plan on going 100% and it's not a mostly open and straight track then yes. In Feb on a 1.3 mile track with 11 turns I definitely needed it. I think I touched 240 even with a 19row. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

03-26-2010, 11:45 AM	#8 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	From the looks of things you'll be alright on that track. 20min sessions are pretty short too. You might hit 260 if you push it real hard. Could be a good testing situation for testing the necessity of a cooler. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

03-26-2010, 09:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
flashburn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,884 Drives: '12 Corvette GS 6M Rep Power: 19	That blows. I'm a bit worried about reliability issues with installing an Oil Cooler since I use this car as a DD for around 70 miles a day.

03-26-2010, 09:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
flashburn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,884 Drives: '12 Corvette GS 6M Rep Power: 19	I probably just need to find a good shop in the Orlando/Deland area to do the work for me. I'm already planning on getting a CBE, HFC's, and possibly a NST Pulley installed.

03-26-2010, 11:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
flashburn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,884 Drives: '12 Corvette GS 6M Rep Power: 19	It's 3.7 miles, for 20 minute stretches.

03-26-2010, 11:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	I lied, we were on the 1.7. went CW for 2 sessions then reversed for the rest of that day and the next (6 more sessions) due to some water between Ricochet and Little Bend. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

03-26-2010, 12:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
flashburn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,884 Drives: '12 Corvette GS 6M Rep Power: 19	Looks like they are actually 25 minute sessions. I'm still thinking about trying it out once before deciding on whether or not I need to buy a cooler.

03-26-2010, 12:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	25mins shouldn't be that bad with such a large track. Just keep an eye on your oil temp and log it so you can let everyone know how it goes. It's not like your car will get hurt, just make go into protection (happens way too early IMO) __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

03-26-2010, 01:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	If you are worried about heat, short shift. You will be amazed at the difference in temp by just shifting 500RPM earlier

03-26-2010, 01:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	Yeah when I was doing my event I set my shift light to like 7200 so it would start flashing at 6700. That thing was going off ALL THE TIME, so I was definitely running it harder than probably necessary. After I got my lines down and was holding my speed in the turns my instructor was actually telling me to shift into 5th at some points and to stay in 4th more often lol. At first I was staying in 3rd the whole time lol. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

03-26-2010, 04:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 848	Be concerned about your brakes,tires,alignments,etc...

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