09 C6 Vette Automatic
 

Guys, I need an honest opinion. I have a buddy that has an 09 Vette (automatic). He won't even entertain the idea of racing me. He says it will be a waste of his time. He's one of those vette guys that thinks a vette is the fastest thing on the road. And on top of all this, he can't drive it to save his life. I have Stillen G3 intakes, Fast Intention test pipes and fast intention cat back. I will be getting a Cobb Tuner and will have it tuned by Cobb Tuning in Plano, TX. With all this said, do I have a chance in hell at beating him in a 1/4 mile race (On a track)?

No. When all is said and done you will have roughly 360-380hp at the crank and probably around 12.8 at the track. Compared to the Vette that has 430hp and 400+ torque and is also about 100lbs or more lighter than your Z. Even if he sucks at driving and leaves TCS on he will beat you. The Vette is good for 12.3-12.4. Assuming you are the best driver in the world and he is your average driver you will hang with him the first half of the race and after that he will easily pull away. It's simple, he has more hp, torque, and is lighter than you.

Just so you have an idea my girlfriend just recently got rid of her 2006 C6 automatic Vette. Before she traded it we did a track night. Now mind you I was having problems launching with my Z but I had now chance. Keep in mind the 06 Vette only has 400hp and 400 torque. Vettes are a beast. Better add more mods if you want to play with Vettes.

Thanks for your response!

Get that supercharger on there, and then talk to him, That should give you the nod.

he will make you look like your driving in reverse. and thats as kind as i can put it. they have more HP way more TQ and are lighter than the 370z.

Hmmmm..... Guys, I drove up beside a 2009 Grey Convertible C6 and as I approached his left rear quarter panel, he hit. Rear kind of sunk and a little bit of fuel smoke along with the sound of his exhaust confirmed the fact that he hit it. I had geared down before I attempted to drive up next to him so when he hit the gas, I did as well. He didn't pull me any and I didn't pull on him any. Any thoughts???

^I took a ride in my buddy's 2007 C6 Vette Automatic and to be perfectly honest, it felt slower than my Z, of course by the same token my buddy's STi feels way faster than my Z and I know my Z is faster than the STi.

The gears on the Vette are extremely tall. First gear can go up to nearly 60mph on the non Z51!

A ride isn't going to tell you much.

A C6 feels loads faster than the Z. Gobs of torque on tap at any RPM, never ending thrust... it's a night and day difference.

Just thinking about the difference in get up and go between a C6 Z51 and my Z... wow.

I have never driven a 'vette so I can't comment but I do know that those LSX engines are BEAST! Absolute monster! Also, when I had the camaro, I used to hear that many LSX engines are underrated. Meaning, they put out more that what the spec sheets said. Like many 'vette owner will go to dyno straight from the dealer and leave with a much higher HP/TQ than they are suppose to have.

I don't see why you can't have a good, friendly run. Is he your friend?

:stirthepot: :tup:

Yeah, the Vette will probably take you, but like AK asked, what's wrong with just a friendly run? My friend wants to race me (he's got a v6 2010 camaro), and he even said he knows he'd probably lose, but really, its just for fun and to see how they'd do side by side.

I'm aware of the fact that a ride doesn't mean ****. I was just simply stating that if his buddy doesn't think the Z is fast based off something like that he should give it another shot rather than just brush it off thinking that "its not worth his time" thats all I was getting at.

True.

heh not to be mean but either he was goofing around or short shifting if he was a manual and still goofing around.

but just to kinda put a end to the argument and be a buzzkill this will kind show you the difference in the vette and the Z

YouTube - 2007 Bone Stock Corvette Coupe 12.39 @ 115 at MIR


found another that did 12.2 something at 118mph but you get the idea heh. the c6 vette is in a different league. and one of the best bang for the buck cars you can get used.

Well, I've rode in my friends vette and I feel that it is overrated. And about it being in another "league".... Ahhh, its definetely in a different "price range". Its a 6.2 liter engine with 415 hp. Our engine is a 3.7 liter as you all know. Real close to being twice the cubic inches but only 20% more power? Not impressive numbers to me. Its a nice car but not worth $55,000 in my opinion. And about whether or not the vette I drove up beside was completely in it or not..... Who half throttles their car when they are trying to show out per say? Anything is possible I suppose...

My relative has a 2006 vette MT. We are going to settle this at the drag strip this spring. I think that he will beat me by a very small margine as im hopiing to get into the 12.5's with my N/A set up. My car will be set up for the 1/4 mile with all the toys on it. Now when i put the GTM SC on it it should run 11.???.
The vette has an exhaust system on it . other than that its stock.

^Cool man, GL :tup:

why are you adding 7 thousand to the price tag? they sale for 48-49k. and ive seen nismo sale for 40K which is ridiculous for the little performance gain.

there putting down 390+ hp to the wheels and around 376tq
thats about 120 more hp to the wheels. and rated same mpg. so id say thats a pretty big gap. and just fyi 20% of say 260-70 rwhp which is about ave for the Z it seems is comes around to 53hp.

the ls3 is actually makes about 46% more power. and thats just the horse power. not counting in the more tq is makes at much lower rpms

and there are 4 bangers that are pushing nearly the same rwhp as the 3.7 from the factory so its kinda silly to bring up the "its almost twice as big". they could have made the engine pump out ALOT more power if they so chose to. but thats what Next generation cars are for. ntm avoiding gas guzling taxes and making sure the car still have good roadside manners and not to much power. not all the vette owners want the over the top power like say of the zo6.

anywho. i like both cars. but im not going to try and make the 370z as being on par with the c6 vettes. c5.. yes.




and good luck to Z eliminator. if he goofs up the launch or something you could possibly hold him off, but it will take him having to goof up. at 312rwhp and him with an exhaust work he still will have about 70-80hp over you and the weight advantage. get it on video!!!

Jesus, I knew I shouldn't have posted anything. And this is exactly why I don't have many posts and will go back to the way I was before with this forum. Reading it in the shadows. My friend paid $55,000 dollars for his vette. Did he get ripped off? Idk and don't care. I paid 30,665 for my car. 24,000 dollars IN MY OPINION should get a person alot more. I was speaking of flywheel horsepower. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe my friend's vette is rated at 415 FLYWHEEL hp. Our car is 336 hp. 79 more flywheel hp for a motor that is not far from being twice the cubic inches. If I had a point, then i guess this was it. I find it far more impressive that a 3.7l V-6 can be engineered to make the power that it is making from the factory vs. 6.2l engine making what it does from the factory. Does this mean the 3.7 is stretched thin as it is and the 6.2 has alot of room for improvement. This very well may be the case. I thought I was pointing out the obvious.

most c6 sell for 5 to 8k below sticker. you can get a z06 new for 58k if you look hard enough.

the displacement argument is lame. why be a sore loser?

new mustang v6 makes 310hp with 3.7l while getting 30mpg. it doesnt mean anything

^^ 2011 Mustang V6 = 305 hp

Sore loser? Who is the sore loser? Lame to you and thought provoking to me. And whats you point about the price? If vette's were so wonderful and affordable as they are being pertrayed to be on this thread then why did ya'll settle for a Z?

Displacement argument = lame, wtf?
Really? Anyways, the Vette should pull from you from a dig, if you are going from a roll you might keep up for a bit but he will constantly be pulling from you (driver skill will be a factor). Vettes are fun cars, and if I wanted to stretch myself I would have bought a Z06 but I wanted to have room to relax and play with the aftermarket.

1 and 1/2 Z's almost for the price of one vette. A Bargain for nissan

A lot of sports car owners half *** the throttle when "racing" because they aren't used to speed. There are a huge amount of sports car owners who could give a rats *** about power but own the car due to the prestige of it. So it is highly possible the Vette you ran wasn't putting it down all the way. In fact I know for sure he wasn't being that he didn't pull away from you. I've also raced a Vette going from Vegas to California in my 370z. We did 3 runs all starting from about 80mph up to 130-140. Every time he pulled on me pretty easily. It's simple numbers. It's one thing to say you didn't get beat by the Vette, it's another thing to be naive to the fact that the Vette is a superior performance car and the driver probably wasn't pushing the car to it's limits

Also to correct your multiple posts on this subject the current Vette has 430hp and if you opted for the Z06 exhaust upgrade (which most dealers have already put on their Vettes) it increases that number to 436. So we are talking about 104hp more than our Z's. Say what you want but the Vette is probably the best bang for the buck sports car around right now when you compare dollar for performance.

Oh, and your statements about displacement vs. power made and why Chevy can't get more out of the 6.3. You realize the Z06 makes 505hp right? The regular Vette is detuned down to 430hp.

^the Z06 is a 7.0 liter engine, its not the 6.2.

7.0 liter=LS7
6.2 liter=LS3

Hey, way to read up on the vette. I thought it had a 6.2 liter motor. My mistake. 430 - 336 = 94 Marginal, I know but since you call yourself calling me out on this matter, I thought I should point out the obvious. Everyone, if 100 horsepower more for 18,000 to 24,000 dollars more is worth it then go for it. Spend, spend away. How fast would the 370 go with 18,000 to 24,000 more dollars put into it??? Hmmm.... the vette your speaking of weighs 3208 to 3311 lbs depending on which model you get (Base Coupe or Grand Sport Coupe). 370Z weighs 3232, 3278 or 3300 lbs depending on what model you get. 370Z + the difference it would cost to get the sweet deal of a car THE GLORIOUS vette. How fast would the 370 be then? I'm sure your going to shoot holes all in this but lets here it. I'm sure your about to say the vette will still be faster. My God, if I didn't know any better, I would have thought I posted my "Can I get ya'lls opinion" thread on a vette forum. Keep in my mind, I never thought/said a 370Z was faster. I asked.... If I had pre-determined outlook on this matter, I wouldn't have ever posted anything regarding a vette. I'm not retired or going through a mid life crisis so an automatic c6 vette will never be an option nor will it be if/when I make it to be this older age I speak of.

Unlike you, I actually did have one. It was faster than the Z by far. If you think yours can keep up, you have got to be kidding yourself. At VIR, my 400HP C6 was 5 sec faster than my 287HP 350Z with the same tires and brake pads with the same driver. I sold it because my car was running out of warranty and I wanted something different. Also the C6 was way too flashy for my liking, I prefer to drive something more low key. Both cars have their own pros and cons, it's all personal preference.

There is a reason why the Corvette is in a higher class in almost all types of racing, it is a faster car. You might not like it, but you have to respect them for what they are.

This is as lame as the Corvette people not giving other cars any respect. Please get out of your own little world, there are other things that are either better or at least different. Go on the Corvette forum and search, most Vettes are usually 4-10K under MSRP. A base Corvette is around 46K or so if memory serves me right.

I do respect vettes....the Z06 and ZR1. I realize the vette is different but better? Thats pure opinion. For the money spent after WHATEVER discount you get or once got on a C6 vette, imo it isn't better. My God it should be faster, it has a way bigger motor. Faster doesn't always put a car in a HIGHER class. And trust me, I will never own or try to own a C6 vette. If the Lord blesses me with a big amount of money, I would definetly consider the Z06 and I would for sure want a ZR1. Love em. Again, I'll repeat myself one more time. I asked everyones opinion about my chances with a C6 vette and I mostly got jack *** answers like yours. Love what you will and I'll do the same.

I don't see where you were getting jackass answers. They were all pretty honest and I think you were just being overly sensitive for the internets.

let me see. 400hp c6 lapped vir at 2.13 or 2.14. 287hp 350z lapped it at 2.17 or 2.18. they had same driver and same tires and were all stock. c6 was 40k new to me and my 350 was 31k. the 350 was 40lbs lighter. there is a noticeable gap in the performance. the 370 is faster, but so is the ls3 c6. ask any track guys what they have to do to make up 4 seconds. the c6 was 13mph faster down the same straight as the z at vir

This thread still exists? The answer is NO. You will be crushed like a bug.

It is the Chevy for name of GOD. Leave it alone. There is a good reason for you to be on this forum. Z is lot more car for money.:driving:

A lot of car for the money also describes the Vette.

If the vette had a nicer interior I wouldn't be driving the Z... lol.

:iagree: But quality of material used is what keeps that car to play with big boys. Otherwise, that car should be in different legue.

I never said I was faster. Simply asked for an honest opinion. I got some mature opinions and some people saying I'm stupid for asking. I wouldn't have had to ask if he would have simply shut my mouth by running me.

Srry to burst your bubby but even the LS2 Vettes will destroy us...The reason it might not seem fast to you is because the gears are very long, but that ish is gaining mph like a mutha...I know my dad had a 06 Vert LS2 Z51 6M....And my cousin has an 08 Coupe LS3 Z51 6M. He has 430whp and 425trq (intake, full exhaust and tune) and let me tell you he took me for a ride and nailed it n second gear n let off half of 4th n we were doin 130 in the blink of an eye...It def is in another league....even if the ls3 is stock and we are bolt on we still would half no chance they dyno stock around 390rwph n almost same torque...MMM it would be nice to have an ls3 swap in our Z's....

A much better car to aspire to keep up with after mods would be an e92 m3 or a 911 carerra 2s. Ls1 vettes are slightly faster than us let alone two engine updates later.

from my experience of drag racing it doesnt matter if the the corvette is faster... what matter is the DRIVER!!!! ANYONE CAN HAVE A FAST CAR.. BUT DO U HAVE THE SKILLS TO DRIVE "FAST CAR" ???? I WOULD SAY RACE THE CORVETTE.