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phunk 02-13-2010 09:27 PM

BANG when powershifting
 
anyone else experience a bang/thud from the engine bay when powershifting the 1-2 or 2-3?

sounds as if the engine were hitting the chassis somewhere, but i have looked around and found no evidence of that yet. im gonna take a better look at the engine mounts and see if they are possibly bottoming out.

just figured i would check in to see if anyone else had this or fixed this, and could save me time by telling me where its coming from.

car is almost brand new, 3000 miles... and otherwise perfect. only tried the powershifting a few times since it does that since the first time i tried it.

my 350z sure doesnt care even after years of powershifting daily (well, the days it actually gets driven)!

hmmm... possibly factory dual mass flywheel bottoming out its travel?... might have to go solid flywheel.

m4a1mustang 02-13-2010 09:37 PM

This transmission doesn't like a true powershift. It's a good way to kill it.

phunk 02-13-2010 09:41 PM

agreed! Im certainly not recommending that anyone else do it.

but i definitely have no plans to stop doing it in my car! so id like to find this thunk.

FYI I haven't noticed the transmission giving me much a complaint yet.

spearfish25 02-13-2010 10:39 PM

Why do it? It's not making you get from A to B any faster. Nissan included a clutch for a reason. In about a month, you'll be posting another "crunching when shifting gears" thread. Sorry, I'm usually not one to piss on a parade, but powershifting is just nonsense behavior.

m4a1mustang 02-13-2010 10:43 PM

Bottom line is it will destroy the transmission in short order if you keep it up. I come from a transmission that could powershift all day long (TR3650)... let's just say that the 6MT in the 370 can't even powershift at all. You will destroy the transmission...

molamann 02-14-2010 12:23 AM

Powershifting should only be done a bike(wet-clutch) at the track imo.

phunk 02-14-2010 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 400705)
Why do it? It's not making you get from A to B any faster. Nissan included a clutch for a reason. In about a month, you'll be posting another "crunching when shifting gears" thread. Sorry, I'm usually not one to piss on a parade, but powershifting is just nonsense behavior.

Lol... Powershifting has nothing to do with the clutch... It means to keep full throttle while shifting... And trust me, you get from A to B shorter when you do it properly. You won't see me posting anything when my trans breaks.. I'll simply fix it or replace it.

You don't need to worry about what I do in my Z.

I have more than the means to replace the parts of my Z when they break... I have worked in the auto performance industry for over 10 years..

I know what breaks cars and what it takes to keep them going under extreme conditions. I was just hoping someone who is serious about achieving the highest performance rather then reliability might have already ran into this since I only picked up a 370 a few months ago. If not, I will handle it and post my findings for anyone else not afraid to break their car.

phunk 02-14-2010 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrell Tyson (Post 400760)
Power-Shifting shall be now known as Phunk-Shifting..then shortly after Fail-Shifting

Followed by **** my car is ****** up help me please

-Ty

you.. Lol

B1nks 02-14-2010 05:15 AM

I'm actually glad someone is beating the **** out of the car and doesn't care. That way the limits will be found and maybe phunk will discover ways of making things better on the car. Keep up the abuse man :tup:

Also I think it is that dual mass flywheel causing the sound when the clutch gets re-engaged.

schrute 02-14-2010 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk (Post 400763)
I have more than the means to replace the parts of my Z when they break...

My last concern is treating my car with care to keep it from breaking...

Everytime I drive my 370 I'll put it thru more abuse than most of you will in your cars lifetime. Don't worry about my car... I have the means to fix what breaks

Abuse your car all you want - it's your car. Just don't expect to find many kindred spirits here.

When your Z is sufficiently abused what car will you move on to abuse next? Will your first posts on that forum begin the same way? GL :ugh2:

spearfish25 02-14-2010 07:56 AM

Cool, you don't care about your car and you're happy to destroy it. You may certainly do as you please. However as Shrute astutely noted, you won't find much abuse troubleshooting on this forum.

Spec Jay 02-14-2010 08:08 AM

this elitist talk is pretty annoying. at least SOMEONE is testing the limits of this car. if powershifting is bad then 500whp from TT cars is just as bad has any of them blown up? i also agree about it being the flywheel banging when re engaging.

370Zsteve 02-14-2010 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk (Post 400763)
You won't see me posting anything when my trans breaks.. I'll simply fix it or replace it.

You don't need to worry about what I do in my Z... If you can't answer my question you can simply ignore this thread.

I have more than the means to replace the parts of my Z when they break... I have worked in the auto performance industry for over 10 years and build everything from 500hp hondas to 1700hp vipers and maintained race cars that cost over a mill....

And that's where I stopped reading. :bs:

m4a1mustang 02-14-2010 08:58 AM

:roflpuke2:

RCZ 02-14-2010 10:15 AM

This thread again??

I'm sorry, but its ridiculous that you ask "whats the loud noise when I powershift?" and then you claim you have any kind of mechanical inclination? Is that a joke? You know how transmissions work?

Someone who has built 1700hp vipers and has done maintenance on race cars doesnt ask why his car thunks when he pointlessly abuses it.

I know what it is, why its doing it and how to make it stop, but you can figure it out yourself with that attitude you have when people try to talk some sense into you.
You don't go faster by ramming gears, you are inevitably spinning tires in your 1-2 and 2-3 shifts and that is making you go slower.

Sorry bud, good luck in your quest to destroy the car.


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