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AK370Z 02-03-2010 03:11 PM

Left Foot Braking - Do you do it?
 
Well, since it IS the track section and I don't recall discussing this here before, lets talk about Left Foot Braking.

I was browsing on YouTube and saw the following informational video about left foot braking ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcSAiRxmm0w

What is left foot braking?
Quote:

Left-foot braking is the technique of using the left foot to operate the brake pedal in an automobile, leaving the right foot dedicated to the throttle pedal.[1] It contrasts with the normal practice of the left foot operating the clutch pedal, and the right foot operating the brake and accelerator pedals.

At its most basic purpose, left-foot braking can be used to decrease the time spent between the right foot moving between the brake and throttle pedals, and can also be used to control load transfer. (from WIKI)
Pretty interesting.. Now here's a video of left foot braking using Lotus Elise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVDfDTp0Y7g
(If you want, you may FF to 1:00 minute mark because that's when they do the testing)
Btw, watch toward the end of that /\ video where they go from left foot braking to heel and toe to left foot brake AGAIN then accelerate! :eek:

It seems like it's pretty popular in WRC as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMEqOGejlrw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNWbG3ItyZU


Now, can this be used during Autoxing to shave off time? Here's a discussion

Left foot braking in autocross? - Rennlist Discussion Forums

So, to all track junkies, do you left foot brake in your RWD? Did you notice a faster lap time with left foot braking as oppose to right foot braking?

Discuss ...

m4a1mustang 02-03-2010 03:13 PM

I don't.

LFB is a lot easier in race cars with transmissions that don't require clutch operation on shifts.

vipor 02-03-2010 03:38 PM

I feel retarded when I try to brake with my left.

M.Bonanni 02-03-2010 03:54 PM

I do it when I don't have to downshift under braking (which is rare at most tracks). It takes a while to get used to, but I used to practice when I used to daily drive a Nissan Titan which was an automatic. When I can do it on the track I prefer to. Every tenth of a second counts in time attack! Its mostly a trick for cars who don't require the use of a clutch to shift (R35 GTR, M3 w/SMG, most professional race cars with sequential transmissions, etc.) Its also good on turbo cars so you can keep the turbos spooled up. Left foot braking does tend to be harder on brakes though depending on how much you do it since there will be a split second where you are on the gas and the brakes at the same time.

ChrisSlicks 02-03-2010 04:22 PM

I left foot brake on automatics but not manuals as my foot tends to get caught on the clutch.

On the Z you can't really push the gas and brake at the same time as it will cut the throttle about 80% anyway.

AutoX Z 02-03-2010 06:10 PM

^+1

The Z's E-Throttle doesn't let you overlap throttle and brake.

Island_370 02-03-2010 07:43 PM

I almost always left foot brake while on straights to combat pad knock and improve initial bite.
But I have been able to do it for entering a corner....but I need to focus sooooo much on it, I usually blow my turn-in.

Titan1080 02-03-2010 09:02 PM

I brake with the left foot in autos like my Titan and when I race karts (well, obviously). I got real comfortable with it after many MANY hours playing Forza 2 and 3 with the force feedback wheel and pedals. I don't bother in the Z since I don't track it (yet...) and prefer to keep my left foot over or near the clutch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutoX Z (Post 386921)
^+1

The Z's E-Throttle doesn't let you overlap throttle and brake.

There ought to be a workaround like on the Titan's electric throttle, well-known over at Titan Talk as the burnout mod. Guys have been doing brake stands at WOT for years, it's a pretty simple mod to do as well. Of course, the trick is figuring out if the wire is the same color on the Z or not...

Burnout Mod Simplified - Nissan Titan Forum

frost 02-03-2010 09:30 PM

< left foot braker. Just a habit I developed when I started driving.

spearfish25 02-03-2010 10:49 PM

Yep, too bad you can't do it in the Z due to the E-throttle. Wonder if there is a way to program that 'feature' out...

I agree that Forza can train you to improve your left foot dexterity. After playing a few hours, I went driving around town and could smoothly brake with my left foot. Never was able to do that without going through the windshield before playing Forza with pedals and left foot braking.

Xan 02-03-2010 10:57 PM

I never used to, as I don't track. But when I started playing GTP I started it and now use it in my car as well. Although it's mostly useless on the street... Only on entering certain corners

KillerBee370 02-04-2010 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor (Post 386757)
I feel retarded when I try to brake with my left.

You look it too pal!! :icon23:

KillerBee370 02-04-2010 12:09 AM

I don't do it on the street or at the track. Maybe if I practiced with a sequential shifter, etc. but otherwise no.

feelzpwr91 02-04-2010 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor (Post 386757)
I feel retarded when I try to brake with my left.

:iagree::iagree:

spearfish25 02-05-2010 10:50 AM

Just played around with left foot braking on the way back from work. Too bad our cars cut throttle 75-80% when you hit the brake. Definitely can't accelerate out of any corners while braking to distribute torque like in the videos.


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