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Averying 07-22-2023 02:44 PM

Keeping temps down on track?
 
Who has ducted oil coolers and radiator with a sport bumper? I have a 34 row with a bumper cutout, and some slots in my fender liner, but still saw 260° oil temps at my first track day, along with 230°+ coolant temps. I figure ducting and/or a oil cooler can is my next step to keep temps in check for the future. Also, are people running stock fender liners or getting rid of them to get more air flow?

Looking for some inspiration on how to make some ducting and if anyone has general advice, it’d be much appreciated!

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Rusty 07-22-2023 04:09 PM

Vent your hood with Trackspec vents.

Averying 07-23-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 4043323)
Vent your hood with Trackspec vents.


Do you drive your car in the rain with the trackspec vents? How’s that work?


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SeeThruHead 07-23-2023 11:38 AM

I think vented hood or not the engine bay gets wet in heavy rain.
Dealerships often pressure wash engine bays with the engine running apparently, to save time.
I pressure wash my engine often, and turn on the car to dry it out.
Maybe not a great idea if you have exposed filters on cold air intakes...Not sure about that.

That being said it would probably be fairly easy to fab some removable rain guards that attach underneath the hood if you're really worried about it.

Rusty 07-23-2023 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Averying (Post 4043356)
Do you drive your car in the rain with the trackspec vents? How’s that work?


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Yep, I don't use my rain shields anymore. Drove 10 hrs in the rain coming home from ZDayZ one year. No issues.

Averying 07-23-2023 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 4043357)
I think vented hood or not the engine bay gets wet in heavy rain.
Dealerships often pressure wash engine bays with the engine running apparently, to save time.
I pressure wash my engine often, and turn on the car to dry it out.
Maybe not a great idea if you have exposed filters on cold air intakes...Not sure about that.

That being said it would probably be fairly easy to fab some removable rain guards that attach underneath the hood if you're really worried about it.


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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 4043362)
Yep, I don't use my rain shields anymore. Drove 10 hrs in the rain coming home from ZDayZ one year. No issues.


Good points… the water issue (sounds like not really an issue like I thought) and fear of cutting up my OEM hood were steering me away from hood vents. But I may reconsider now!


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Rusty 07-23-2023 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Averying (Post 4043366)
Good points… the water issue (sounds like not really an issue like I thought) and fear of cutting up my OEM hood were steering me away from hood vents. But I may reconsider now!


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I've used a high pressure washer on my engine with no issues.

danegrey 07-23-2023 07:15 PM

Also, for the track, I run Engine Ice for coolant, and have the trackspec vents...
Only problem I had last time on the track, I found out I had a coolant leak...
car went into limp mode....

Till that I had no problem with temps going to the critical stage

What oil are you running? I run - Mobil 1 FS European Car Formula Full Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40

Rusty may have some suggestions too...

Averying 07-23-2023 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 4043385)
Also, for the track, I run Engine Ice for coolant, and have the trackspec vents...
Only problem I had last time on the track, I found out I had a coolant leak...
car went into limp mode....

Till that I had no problem with temps going to the critical stage

What oil are you running? I run - Mobil 1 FS European Car Formula Full Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40

Rusty may have some suggestions too...


I also switched to M1 0W-40 right before the track day.

Seems like a center-mounted oil cooler (in front of radiator) may be a better spot for the oil cooler than side-mounted like I have. I think without proper ducting, and the fact that the fender liner prevents proper flow, side-mounted seems to be tougher to make effective


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Rusty 07-23-2023 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 4043385)
Also, for the track, I run Engine Ice for coolant, and have the trackspec vents...
Only problem I had last time on the track, I found out I had a coolant leak...
car went into limp mode....

Till that I had no problem with temps going to the critical stage

What oil are you running? I run - Mobil 1 FS European Car Formula Full Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40

Rusty may have some suggestions too...

Same stuff. :tup:

My 34 row is mounted just to the right, in front of the radiator. Also made duct work behind the bumper to direct the air flow to the radiator/oil cooler/power steering cooler. You don't want any air bleeding off around the sides. A splitter helps with air flow too.

2011 Nismo#91 07-24-2023 05:34 AM

Hood vents will drop those temps by about 10 deg. or so. The main issue is having the intercooler there. It's slows down and heats up the air a lot. First mount the oil cooler to the side as mentioned. Second add more ductwork all around the intercooler/radiator not let the air flow around any side. Third, in addition to the track spec vents add two more vents above the stock bumper opening on the sides of the badge; I'd say about half the radiator is exposed to the stock bumper opening, it needs more. Last add a second oil cooler if needed and a front splitter.

Averying 07-24-2023 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 4043409)
Hood vents will drop those temps by about 10 deg. or so. The main issue is having the intercooler there. It's slows down and heats up the air a lot. First mount the oil cooler to the side as mentioned. Second add more ductwork all around the intercooler/radiator not let the air flow around any side. Third, in addition to the track spec vents add two more vents above the stock bumper opening on the sides of the badge; I'd say about half the radiator is exposed to the stock bumper opening, it needs more. Last add a second oil cooler if needed and a front splitter.


This is great. I will start with ducting the coolers and positioning them better (oil cooler and Rotrex cooler moved further off to the side to get clean air). Cutting the bumper&hood will follow if ducting doesn’t help


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Z is 4 ZEBRA! 07-24-2023 02:16 PM

Here is what I did.

https://imgbb.com/hMXnqjS

- Upgrade oil cooler core to 40 row. It is not necessarily a direct fit as some trimming and creative mounting had to be done.
- Trackspec hood vents
- Trim bumper opening to allow more airflow + aftermarket bash bar
- Mild ducting to force air to go through the radiator and oil cooler
- Water wetter

Averying 07-24-2023 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Z is 4 ZEBRA! (Post 4043429)
Here is what I did.

https://imgbb.com/hMXnqjS

- Upgrade oil cooler core to 40 row. It is not necessarily a direct fit as some trimming and creative mounting had to be done.
- Trackspec hood vents
- Trim bumper opening to allow more airflow + aftermarket bash bar
- Mild ducting to force air to go through the radiator and oil cooler
- Water wetter

Your picture is broken… doesn’t show up! Can you reattach it or post an Imgur link, etc

Z is 4 ZEBRA! 07-24-2023 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Averying (Post 4043431)
Your picture is broken… doesn’t show up! Can you reattach it or post an Imgur link, etc

http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...ml#post4027283

Try this


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