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justin_boy 01-30-2021 12:49 PM

Manual Trans Oil Cooler
 
Hey guys
nothing came up on the search, only the stillen auto oil coolers, but i need one for the manual.

anyone running one?

Rusty 01-30-2021 01:51 PM

No one is running one that I know of. One guy WAS going to put a temp sensor in and monitor the temps. But he has not posted anything. That's been months now.

cv129 01-30-2021 06:21 PM

There was a gunmetal gen 1 Nismo.....can’t remember if it was a trans or diff cooler....it was a long time ago, when I was a newb here, long before the MA diff cooler came out.

I had his profile page saved in my favorite. But now, somehow the link came back dead. His username was supposed to be “champion” if I am correct. User search came back negative now though. Dang it....

Rusty 01-30-2021 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3983924)
There was a gunmetal gen 1 Nismo.....can’t remember if it was a trans or diff cooler....it was a long time ago, when I was a newb here, long before the MA diff cooler came out.

I had his profile page saved in my favorite. But now, somehow the link came back dead. His username was supposed to be “champion” if I am correct. User search came back negative now though. Dang it....

Think it was a diff cooler from GTM that he had a thread on.

cv129 01-30-2021 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3983927)
Think it was a diff cooler from GTM that he had a thread on.

That’s probably it. Thx. Back to square one....

justin_boy 01-31-2021 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3983911)
No one is running one that I know of. One guy WAS going to put a temp sensor in and monitor the temps. But he has not posted anything. That's been months now.

ahh, thought about doing that too...whats the difference between the auto and the manual in terms of cooling

-ZS-Carpenter 01-31-2021 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy (Post 3983949)
ahh, thought about doing that too...whats the difference between the auto and the manual in terms of cooling

The auto already has a pump and lines. All you need is a core and reroute some lines from the cooler in the radiator to the new core.

The manual it splash oiled so you'll need a pump to circulate the fluid along with lines and a core. Depending on were you want to mount it you might need/want a fan like Rusty has on his diff cooler

SouthArk370Z 01-31-2021 08:21 AM

What makes you think you need a cooler for your MT? I'd get some temperature measurements before going to all the trouble/expense of installing pump, lines, radiator, etc.

If temps are actually higher than what you are comfortable with, changing the trans fluid to a different type, viscosity, etc, may help.

Rusty 01-31-2021 11:30 AM

To install a lube cooler for the manual tranny will cost you over $500.00. Need a quality cooler that has to be mounted in the rear. A Tilton continuous duty pump mounted in the rear. Plus your stainless AN-10 hoses and fittings. You have to use a banjo fitting on the bottom of the tranny to pump the fluid out. IF you are lowered. You WILL wipe out that fitting the first time you scrap. You have to drill and tap a hole in the side of the tranny for a temp sensor near the bottom. I've put a lot of thought into this a while back. It's not worth it unless you are pro level racer.

justin_boy 01-31-2021 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3983956)
The auto already has a pump and lines. All you need is a core and reroute some lines from the cooler in the radiator to the new core.

The manual it splash oiled so you'll need a pump to circulate the fluid along with lines and a core. Depending on were you want to mount it you might need/want a fan like Rusty has on his diff cooler

ahhh gotcha, i thought it would work like an oil cooler without the fan....but makes sense now

justin_boy 01-31-2021 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3983959)
What makes you think you need a cooler for your MT? I'd get some temperature measurements before going to all the trouble/expense of installing pump, lines, radiator, etc.

If temps are actually higher than what you are comfortable with, changing the trans fluid to a different type, viscosity, etc, may help.

well the. thing is I ran MT90 and boiled it at the track....I guess some spewed out of the pressure tube and now my car reeks of oil

justin_boy 01-31-2021 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3983967)
To install a lube cooler for the manual tranny will cost you over $500.00. Need a quality cooler that has to be mounted in the rear. A Tilton continuous duty pump mounted in the rear. Plus your stainless AN-10 hoses and fittings. You have to use a banjo fitting on the bottom of the tranny to pump the fluid out. IF you are lowered. You WILL wipe out that fitting the first time you scrap. You have to drill and tap a hole in the side of the tranny for a temp sensor near the bottom. I've put a lot of thought into this a while back. It's not worth it unless you are pro level racer.

yeah I guess it's too crazy for the level of tracking im doing...still i dont know how i boiled the mt90 on a freezing day

Rusty 01-31-2021 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy (Post 3983997)
well the. thing is I ran MT90 and boiled it at the track....I guess some spewed out of the pressure tube and now my car reeks of oil

You might have boiled the diff lube. It's been known to happened. It smells ready bad. It goes out the vent tube and lays in the rear sub-frame.

If it came out of the tranny vent tube. You could see a trail on the tranny. Can you? No one I know has ever boiled lube out of the tranny. If you did. I'm thinking you over filled it.

justin_boy 01-31-2021 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3984002)
You might have boiled the diff lube. It's been known to happened. It smells ready bad. It goes out the vent tube and lays in the rear sub-frame.

If it came out of the tranny vent tube. You could see a trail on the tranny. Can you? No one I know has ever boiled lube out of the tranny. If you did. I'm thinking you over filled it.

do I just wait til it goes away? i had just put mt90 and 75w90 thats the reason it could be both, and I dont know which one

I think the trans fluid might have been overfilled but im not sure cause theres no trail on the tranny

2011 Nismo#91 02-01-2021 06:31 AM

I have never boiled gear or engine oil before, never even herd of it. Hydraulic fluid yes, coolant yes.
1. Do you have a PS cooler?
2. Are your fluid levels correct after the boil?
2A. PS
2B. Clutch
2C. Brake

Rusty 02-01-2021 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3984092)
I have never boiled gear or engine oil before, never even herd of it. Hydraulic fluid yes, coolant yes.
1. Do you have a PS cooler?
2. Are your fluid levels correct after the boil?
2A. PS
2B. Clutch
2C. Brake

The diff has been known to puke once in a while. It's happened to about 3 people here in the forum.

Spooler 02-01-2021 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3984107)
The diff has been known to puke once in a while. It's happened to about 3 people here in the forum.

I guess I will raise my hand. Diff cooler is a must have.

Hotrodz 02-01-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3984107)
The diff has been known to puke once in a while. It's happened to about 3 people here in the forum.

I was going to say the same thing. I am one that lost some diff fluid while driving the dragon. It never happened on the track!

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justin_boy 02-01-2021 12:19 PM

smell is coming from the trans tube, i think it was overfilled. Nonetheless, i think a diff cooler is a good idea

Rusty 02-01-2021 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy (Post 3984142)
smell is coming from the trans tube, i think it was overfilled. Nonetheless, i think a diff cooler is a good idea

The diff does run hot. If you have the oem vlsd. After it gets hot. The silicone breaks down and the vlsd gives up the ghost.

justin_boy 02-01-2021 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3984144)
The diff does run hot. If you have the oem vlsd. After it gets hot. The silicone breaks down and the vlsd gives up the ghost.

lol the ghost fart?

Rusty 02-01-2021 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy (Post 3984160)
lol the ghost fart?

Nah....the vlsd no longer works right until it cools back down. If too many hot cycles. It just quits. Mine would work ok for the first 10 minutes or so of a session, then slowly quit working like a vlsd. Toward the end of it's life. It would quit after about 5 minutes and wouldn't come back until the next day. That's when I installed the OS Giken LSD.

justin_boy 02-01-2021 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3984179)
Nah....the vlsd no longer works right until it cools back down. If too many hot cycles. It just quits. Mine would work ok for the first 10 minutes or so of a session, then slowly quit working like a vlsd. Toward the end of it's life. It would quit after about 5 minutes and wouldn't come back until the next day. That's when I installed the OS Giken LSD.

yeah, this is my next mod for sure

should i get the 3.9 final gear set too

justin_boy 02-11-2021 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3984092)
I have never boiled gear or engine oil before, never even herd of it. Hydraulic fluid yes, coolant yes.
1. Do you have a PS cooler?
2. Are your fluid levels correct after the boil?
2A. PS
2B. Clutch
2C. Brake

hey so all fluids are at correct level, also no signs of a spill anywhere (no traces) what is a ps cooler?

Rusty 02-11-2021 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy (Post 3985406)
hey so all fluids are at correct level, also no signs of a spill anywhere (no traces) what is a ps cooler?

ps coooler = power steering cooler.

Tip on the power steering fluid level. If you track. DO NOT fill to the max line. Fill only to the add line. Reason why. When the fluid gets hot. It will expand and over flow the reservoir. Leaving a nice mess to clean up. Z1 makes a power steering cooler.

https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...it-p-4774.html

I have one.

JARblue 02-11-2021 05:14 PM

I have Concept Z's PS cooler :tup:

justin_boy 02-11-2021 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3985409)
ps coooler = power steering cooler.

Tip on the power steering fluid level. If you track. DO NOT fill to the max line. Fill only to the add line. Reason why. When the fluid gets hot. It will expand and over flow the reservoir. Leaving a nice mess to clean up. Z1 makes a power steering cooler.

https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...it-p-4774.html

I have one.

ahh thanks for the info, good to know. Im going over all the fluids on monday, diff 2 quarts and trans 3 right? going to put redline 75w140 in the diff and oem trans fluid back. going to see if the smell goes away

ps cooler worth it?

Rusty 02-11-2021 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin_boy (Post 3985436)
ahh thanks for the info, good to know. Im going over all the fluids on monday, diff 2 quarts and trans 3 right? going to put redline 75w140 in the diff and oem trans fluid back. going to see if the smell goes away

ps cooler worth it?

The ps cooler is worth it IF you track hard.

cv129 02-11-2021 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3985411)
I have Concept Z's PS cooler :tup:

Haven’t window shop in a while, didn’t know conceptz sells a kit. Good to know :tiphat:

Hotrodz 02-12-2021 08:10 AM

I need a PS cooler but I got find a place to mount it lol. Too much stuff up from, radiator, 72 row oil cooler and FMIC. Go fast race car problems!!! :rofl2:

justin_boy 02-24-2021 03:25 PM

okay guys, changed the diff fluid and it was boiled. Now my question is, after the first day i noticed the smell, i did another 8 sessions the week after. did i possibly ruin the stock nismo diff using the redline 75w90 and running that mf? just put 140 weight as per specialty z

Spooler 02-24-2021 03:32 PM

You didn't ruin it. It already sucked. LOL If it got low enough on oil to get a bearing, you would already know. It would be very noisey and whine like crazy. If you are not experiencing that, you are good to go for now. You need a diff cooler or it will happen again.

justin_boy 02-24-2021 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3986839)
You didn't ruin it. It already sucked. LOL If it got low enough on oil to get a bearing, you would already know. It would be very noisey and whine like crazy. If you are not experiencing that, you are good to go for now. You need a diff cooler or it will happen again.

haha gotcha, thank you for the heads up and the info. ive been planning on a 1.5 os giken. also been considering a quaife. going to do all bushings/brace/finned cover and cooler at the same time. just need to decide on which diff

Spooler 02-24-2021 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy (Post 3986841)
haha gotcha, thank you for the heads up and the info. ive been planning on a 1.5 os giken. also been considering a quaife. going to do all bushings/brace/finned cover and cooler at the same time. just need to decide on which diff

Don't forget the Wavetrac. It is a nice diff also. You don't need a finned cover if you do the diff cooler.

justin_boy 02-24-2021 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3986846)
Don't forget the Wavetrac. It is a nice diff also.

haha great another in the mix. ive heard mixed things from e46 guys about the wavetrac.

i looked into changing the gearing but having a 2019 nismo dont I already have the 3.9?

Hotrodz 02-24-2021 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin_boy (Post 3986847)
haha great another in the mix. ive heard mixed things from e46 guys about the wavetrac.



i looked into changing the gearing but having a 2019 nismo dont I already have the 3.9?

LMAO, that is a problem, listening to Bimmer Boys! I ran a Wavetrac with know issues and good results.

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justin_boy 02-24-2021 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3986865)
LMAO, that is a problem, listening to Bimmer Boys! I ran a Wavetrac with know issues and good results.

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haha i cant help it

my main shop is a bimmer shop and im on bimmer post all the time

JARblue 02-25-2021 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy (Post 3986867)
haha i cant help it

my main shop is a bimmer shop and im on bimmer post all the time

Can you find me a rear right trailing arm for a 1998 M3 (E36)? Part number is 33322227986

justin_boy 02-25-2021 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3986949)
Can you find me a rear right trailing arm for a 1998 M3 (E36)? Part number is 33322227986

ill be in there tomorrow morning, ill ask for you! just the right one?


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