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victorofhavoc 12-08-2020 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3975294)
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fixed the pictures!

static links look like they were broken :icon17:

victorofhavoc 03-22-2021 04:07 PM

Updated progress
 
So I have totally neglected this thread, and I feel it's time for an update. I am super close to being done with the splitter! I decided to add diffusers, which further complicated my design!

So initially I ran into an issue with tracing the bumper accurately, especially considering there's some body damage in the bumper/fender area on the driver side, so it's sunken in by about an inch. There's also a bit of a chicken and egg scenario with mounting up plywood and choosing where to put initial mounts. This took me a lot of tinkering, but eventually I decided to use rivnuts and mount on the aluminum chassis support that goes to the crash beam. From here I used my Professional Awesome Racing quick releases to mount up the plywood, and trace out the bumper. I used a flexible pvc wall to make a vertical surface from the bumper down. After a ton of measuring I lined everything back up and traced out onto wax paper to make a half of the splitter, including the end to the axle. Once I had that, I traced onto the pvc wall to make a firm template, and then extended it 6 inches from every point to create the final sizing.
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I then decided to go one step further and began designing diffusers to fit the splitter. I spoke with Professional Awesome and determined to go with a fairly large diffuser setup due to the size of the rear wing. I also decided that adding a gurney flap to the rear wing would be great for helping balance out the extra front end downforce that will exist. I began with the idea of the curved diffuser based on Pro Awe's design but scaled to 82.5% size to fit under the shorter bumper of the Z with the full intention of dumping all air into the wheel well. Unfortunately after a ton of time attempting to design this complex shape I almost gave up entirely. I decided to use CAD to try and design it then have it 3d printed. Unfortunately this proved too much for my cad skills so I decided to shape a more square diffuser that's 85% scale, but would still dump all air into the wheel well. The grey design below is the curved failure because I couldn't figure out how to get the multi-dimensional dynamic curvature to be concave on the upper surface with my limited CAD skillset. Instead I designed a secondary model that's in red below.

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The final printed images turned out okay, but they had quite a bit of warping to them. I should be able to still make them work by gluing some steel to them, which was necessary anyway to prevent the epoxy/carbon mixture from sticking to the surface. Also, I had to split each into 2 parts so that it could be printed in the limited size of most 3D printers.

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The final splitter shape has been cut, and the side winglets I made are looking pretty good! They still have to be cut to shape and eventually glued to the splitter itself, but that won't be long now! Mainly I just have to finish the diffuser molds and cut the foam to fit the diffusers exactly.

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Rusty 03-22-2021 06:04 PM

Your splitter should go all the way back to the wheel openings. There, you should put uprights on the end of the splitter.

victorofhavoc 03-22-2021 07:50 PM

It goes all the way back to the front of the front axle.

The mounting so far is two quick release mounts at the chassis and two fiberglass rods with titanium pucks split at the front. Total 6 points of contact pulling up at a 1.226 square inch area each. The carbon is 5 layers and there's 6th layer of carbon Kevlar. The sum should be something like 22000 psi. Are you saying with this mounting you think there won't be enough support? I really thought there would be plenty and pro awe hasn't mentioned needing more mounting at this point. :/

Rusty 03-22-2021 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by victorofhavoc (Post 3989528)
It goes all the way back to the front of the front axle.

The mounting so far is two quick release mounts at the chassis and two fiberglass rods with titanium pucks split at the front. Total 6 points of contact pulling up at a 1.226 square inch area each. The carbon is 5 layers and there's 6th layer of carbon Kevlar. The sum should be something like 22000 psi. Are you saying with this mounting you think there won't be enough support? I really thought there would be plenty and pro awe hasn't mentioned needing more mounting at this point. :/

I should have said wing tips, instead of uprights. :icon14:

victorofhavoc 03-22-2021 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3989539)
I should have said wing tips, instead of uprights. :icon14:

Oh, gotcha! Yeah, you're totally right! The black carbon in the last photo is what I plan to epoxy from the underside on the edges to form a 4x4" wing tip :).

Hotrodz 03-23-2021 01:08 PM

You ran into the same issue my shop did with those large diffusers. They had to shorten them and shave them down quite a bit to get them to work. They also lowered the splitter a little as well. I have not seen the finial setup LOL. Nice work!!!

victorofhavoc 03-23-2021 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3989617)
You ran into the same issue my shop did with those large diffusers. They had to shorten them and shave them down quite a bit to get them to work. They also lowered the splitter a little as well. I have not seen the finial setup LOL. Nice work!!!

The z bumper is very surprisingly short! It's only 16", so of course there's no way a full 20" diffuser would fit :p. Lame, but that's okay! Share some pics of what it looks like when you have them! I'd love to see for comparison.

Hotrodz 03-23-2021 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by victorofhavoc (Post 3989633)
The z bumper is very surprisingly short! It's only 16", so of course there's no way a full 20" diffuser would fit :p. Lame, but that's okay! Share some pics of what it looks like when you have them! I'd love to see for comparison.

Will do!

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