Speed Sensor Alternative?

Wigjiggy · 01-16-2021, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

It will take time to work out all the kinks. You’re doing something very few have done, so can’t expect it to be perfect the first time out.

That’s true. I’m testing the BMW ABS at Homestead in two weeks with a different orientation of the YAW sensor. I have the Euro model, and turns out they install the yaw differently. Go figure.

Elmo370z · 01-17-2021, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Wigjiggy

That’s true. I’m testing the BMW ABS at Homestead in two weeks with a different orientation of the YAW sensor. I have the Euro model, and turns out they install the yaw differently. Go figure.

Growing pains

Wigjiggy · 01-17-2021, 06:17 PM

Don’t be this guy.

Elmo370z · 03-01-2021, 09:10 AM

How did the car do this weekend

Wigjiggy · 03-03-2021, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

How did the car do this weekend

The Auto-blipper did great, so my speed sensor issue is moot now. I developed my own wiring diagram for the Auto-Blip.com product, so if anyone wants it just let me know.

MK60 ABS system issues are also all worked out now, and it is AMAZING! Best track mod I’ve done. Zero ice-mode anymore and my brake zone got a LOT shorter. If anyone is interested, I can connect you with the builder.

SeeThruHead · 03-03-2021, 01:57 PM

So when I messaged ecutek to try and figure out if the Racerom 2 flash would enable rev match on non synchro rev cars i got

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Steve Derham (EcuTek)
28 Sep 2020, 09:28 BST

Good morning, thanks for your enquiry.

The RaceRom features will give you the autoblip like the synchrorev transmission has, to have RaceRom successfully installed, your 370z will need to be 2009 MY onwards due to the ECU requirements.

I hope this helps, anything else please do ask.

Kind regards

Steve.

I wonder if ecutek auto blip could have been used in your situation as well.
But TIL about auto-blip so that's handy.

Wigjiggy · 03-03-2021, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead

So when I messaged ecutek to try and figure out if the Racerom 2 flash would enable rev match on non synchro rev cars i got

I wonder if ecutek auto blip could have been used in your situation as well.
But TIL about auto-blip so that's handy.

Thanks. When I replaced the OEM ABS, I no longer had a speedometer, so went with the bolt-on auto-blipper. It’s not a good as the OEM rev match that I lost, but very close. The delay and duration of the blip is adjustable, so I’m sure ill get it dialed in even better over time.

Elmo370z · 03-06-2021, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wigjiggy

Thanks. When I replaced the OEM ABS, I no longer had a speedometer, so went with the bolt-on auto-blipper. It’s not a good as the OEM rev match that I lost, but very close. The delay and duration of the blip is adjustable, so I’m sure ill get it dialed in even better over time.

Hot damn

StanPoland · 08-02-2021, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wigjiggy

Thanks. When I replaced the OEM ABS, I no longer had a speedometer, so went with the bolt-on auto-blipper. It’s not a good as the OEM rev match that I lost, but very close. The delay and duration of the blip is adjustable, so I’m sure ill get it dialed in even better over time.

I was in similar position as you - had a lot of dangerous ice mode situations, so I bought motorsport flashed Teves MK60, but at the same time really didn't want to sacrifice speedo and rev match. I enjoy Rev Match way too much, to be letting it go that easy

Luckily we have found a solution. This method requires some fabrication skills, but overall works flawlessly.

We kept stock ABS unit (just a control module) in place, still connected to the ECU, with additional speed sensors in the rear. For that we had to fabricate new brackets for second rear speed sensors mounts.

Additional front speed sensors are wired in, but they are not even connected to the wheels. No need for that since speedo and rev match only gets its data from rear speed sensors. The only reason for additional front speed sensors is, because stock ABS needs to see all 4 speed sensors wired in, even with no data from the fronts. Otherwise you will get critical ABS fault, where speedo is not longer working.

Speed sensors for MK60 unit are in place of OEM's. Since they are the important ones from now on, better to have them in stock and secure location.

So basically if you want to enjoy both MK60 and rev match, you have to have in total 6 functional speed sensors (+2 just hanging somewhere) and two ABS units fitted in - one for actual ABS work (MK60) and second purely for rev match and speedo (stock ABS, but only the control module bit - you don't need stock pump and hydraulic module for speedo to work). Only difficult part are additional rear speed sensors mounts. Rest is pretty straight forward once you know the way,

Good luck!

Wigjiggy · 08-02-2021, 07:54 PM

Very cool. Thanks for posting. I may try this to get my rev match back!!

OlivierBedard · 12-20-2021, 11:25 AM

Where did you guys source your mk60 unit and electronics? Thanks

Wigjiggy · 12-20-2021, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OlivierBedard

Where did you guys source your mk60 unit and electronics? Thanks

doug@3dmmotorsport.com

OlivierBedard · 12-07-2022, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by StanPoland

I was in similar position as you - had a lot of dangerous ice mode situations, so I bought motorsport flashed Teves MK60, but at the same time really didn't want to sacrifice speedo and rev match. I enjoy Rev Match way too much, to be letting it go that easy

Luckily we have found a solution. This method requires some fabrication skills, but overall works flawlessly.

We kept stock ABS unit (just a control module) in place, still connected to the ECU, with additional speed sensors in the rear. For that we had to fabricate new brackets for second rear speed sensors mounts.

Additional front speed sensors are wired in, but they are not even connected to the wheels. No need for that since speedo and rev match only gets its data from rear speed sensors. The only reason for additional front speed sensors is, because stock ABS needs to see all 4 speed sensors wired in, even with no data from the fronts. Otherwise you will get critical ABS fault, where speedo is not longer working.

Speed sensors for MK60 unit are in place of OEM's. Since they are the important ones from now on, better to have them in stock and secure location.

So basically if you want to enjoy both MK60 and rev match, you have to have in total 6 functional speed sensors (+2 just hanging somewhere) and two ABS units fitted in - one for actual ABS work (MK60) and second purely for rev match and speedo (stock ABS, but only the control module bit - you don't need stock pump and hydraulic module for speedo to work). Only difficult part are additional rear speed sensors mounts. Rest is pretty straight forward once you know the way,

Good luck!

Do you have images of the rear speed sensors installed? Thanks

THE BULL · 12-07-2022, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by StanPoland

I was in similar position as you - had a lot of dangerous ice mode situations, so I bought motorsport flashed Teves MK60, but at the same time really didn't want to sacrifice speedo and rev match. I enjoy Rev Match way too much, to be letting it go that easy

Luckily we have found a solution. This method requires some fabrication skills, but overall works flawlessly.

We kept stock ABS unit (just a control module) in place, still connected to the ECU, with additional speed sensors in the rear. For that we had to fabricate new brackets for second rear speed sensors mounts.

Additional front speed sensors are wired in, but they are not even connected to the wheels. No need for that since speedo and rev match only gets its data from rear speed sensors. The only reason for additional front speed sensors is, because stock ABS needs to see all 4 speed sensors wired in, even with no data from the fronts. Otherwise you will get critical ABS fault, where speedo is not longer working.

Speed sensors for MK60 unit are in place of OEM's. Since they are the important ones from now on, better to have them in stock and secure location.

So basically if you want to enjoy both MK60 and rev match, you have to have in total 6 functional speed sensors (+2 just hanging somewhere) and two ABS units fitted in - one for actual ABS work (MK60) and second purely for rev match and speedo (stock ABS, but only the control module bit - you don't need stock pump and hydraulic module for speedo to work). Only difficult part are additional rear speed sensors mounts. Rest is pretty straight forward once you know the way,

Hey there Stan, from my findings I've discovered that the Speedo on my setups works with just two ABS sensors. Unsure if it's a fault that happens over time however I've never had a speedometer fail.

I like the piggy back setup

03-01-2021, 09:10 AM	#34 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,709 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295378	How did the car do this weekend Hotrodz likes this.

08-02-2021, 07:54 PM	#40 (permalink)
Wigjiggy Base Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Florida Posts: 127 Drives: 2013 370Z Rep Power: 6	Very cool. Thanks for posting. I may try this to get my rev match back!! Rusty and StanPoland like this.

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