Speed Sensor Alternative?

Wigjiggy · 11-13-2020, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy

dude you have a race car!!!! learn how to heal toe...wayyyy more satisfying
the synchro rev takes all the fun away of a manual

also its really easy the way our pedals are placed. Its more a shove with ridge of your foot to your gas pedal than it is a heel toe, if that helps

Better lap times is also fun.

Wigjiggy · 11-13-2020, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick B

Just install the AutoBlip. It actually works better than the factory rev match, because
it is only active if you are applying the brake, so no over rev if you are upshifting and
accidentally move the shifter in the direction of a downshift. Costs $ 400.00.

Ordered my auto-blip and plan to install it this weekend. Thanks for the tip!!

Hotrodz · 11-13-2020, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wigjiggy

Better lap times is also fun.

Better lap times come from driving better. If you aren't fast yet auto blip won't help.

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Wigjiggy · 11-13-2020, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Better lap times come from driving better. If you aren't fast yet auto blip won't help.

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Maybe. I’m trying to use technology as an advantage. The less I have to move my feet, the more my brain can focus on braking and turn-in. I’m not nostalgic - just want to go fast.

Hotrodz · 11-13-2020, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Wigjiggy

Maybe. I’m trying to use technology as an advantage. The less I have to move my feet, the more my brain can focus on braking and turn-in. I’m not nostalgic - just want to go fast.

We all want to go faster or at least those of us that are not content just turning laps! I don't think there is any advantage of auto rev matching over heel toeing once a driver becomes proficient at it. Auto rev matching is just a way to allow people to drive a manual without having to learn how H/T. The real time saver is to drive an auto so your hands never leave the wheel. There is a reason there are no manuals in pro racing anymore. Also from a practical point, if your auto blip takes crap on you and you don't know how to H/T your track day is done. I am not hating on auto rev match as it is convenient and gives those that don't want to have the full experience or just are not coordinated to still drive a manual. Good luck and I hope it works as you want it to. I know there are others that are waiting to hear your review.

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Wigjiggy · 11-13-2020, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

We all want to go faster or at least those of us that are not content just turning laps! I don't think there is any advantage of auto rev matching over heel toeing once a driver becomes proficient at it. Auto rev matching is just a way to allow people to drive a manual without having to learn how H/T. The real time saver is to drive an auto so your hands never leave the wheel. There is a reason there are no manuals in pro racing anymore. Also from a practical point, if your auto blip takes crap on you and you don't know how to H/T your track day is done. I am not hating on auto rev match as it is convenient and gives those that don't want to have the full experience or just are not coordinated to still drive a manual. Good luck and I hope it works as you want it to. I know there are others that are waiting to hear your review.

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I have a full day of open track testing at Sebring on Dec 10 and will report back how it all works. Will be testing the placement/orientation of the MK60 yaw sensor too.

Tedmeister · 11-19-2020, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy

dude you have a race car!!!! learn how to heal toe...wayyyy more satisfying
the synchro rev takes all the fun away of a manual

also its really easy the way our pedals are placed. Its more a shove with ridge of your foot to your gas pedal than it is a heel toe, if that helps

By that train of thought a real race car driver should turn off ABS and eliminate
power steering, for that true race car experience. I took a lesson from professional race car driver Jade Buford a couple of years ago and he told me
most drivers are not proficient at heal-toe. I sold my track only S2000, because it was not throttle by wire, so Auto Blip could not be installed. I can
only go to the track so many times per year, and spending most of those days just practicing H/T is money not well spent for me personally. Also, to cause the least amount of wear to the drivetrain double clutching is the way to go.
That means even more going on.

justin_boy · 11-19-2020, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick B

By that train of thought a real race car driver should turn off ABS and eliminate
power steering, for that true race car experience. I took a lesson from professional race car driver Jade Buford a couple of years ago and he told me
most drivers are not proficient at heal-toe. I sold my track only S2000, because it was not throttle by wire, so Auto Blip could not be installed. I can
only go to the track so many times per year, and spending most of those days just practicing H/T is money not well spent for me personally. Also, to cause the least amount of wear to the drivetrain double clutching is the way to go.
That means even more going on.

i mean, that sounds like music to my ears...but unfortunately im not experienced enough for no abs and power steering. That is my ultimate goal though....to race as raw as it gets, but i truly do not care for the fastest lap times, its about how much fun i can have around a course at all times and how engaged i am. my next project is gping to be an e46 set up excactly like that (at least no abs). if your'e going for speed and modernity, the z is the worst car to do that with. your'e basically buying a brand new car in 2020 thats from 2009....but that was always the beauty of it for me

justin_boy · 11-19-2020, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wigjiggy

Better lap times is also fun.

true...definitely depends on your definition of fun

Elmo370z · 11-23-2020, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick B

By that train of thought a real race car driver should turn off ABS and eliminate
power steering, for that true race car experience. I took a lesson from professional race car driver Jade Buford a couple of years ago and he told me
most drivers are not proficient at heal-toe. I sold my track only S2000, because it was not throttle by wire, so Auto Blip could not be installed. I can
only go to the track so many times per year, and spending most of those days just practicing H/T is money not well spent for me personally. Also, to cause the least amount of wear to the drivetrain double clutching is the way to go.
That means even more going on.

You could of simply went to a DBW throttle body and implement auto blip. Lewis Hamilton is at the pinnacle of racing and he using electronics, and, tc and paddle shifts to be fast. Electronics and technology make cars faster plain and simple.

Hotrodz · 11-23-2020, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

You could of simply went to a DBW throttle body and implement auto blip. Lewis Hamilton is at the pinnacle of racing and he using electronics, and, tc and paddle shifts to be fast. Electronics and technology make cars faster plain and simple.

LMAO, you got have skills to take advantage of the technology. My fellow Miata racer has broken time trial records which he did the weekend before last in his Miata that has no power steering or abs. My Miata has no abs and we will be deleting the power steering before our next event on December 8th.

The bottom line is if you want modern tech that will help you be faster and overcome many of your driving faults, by an auto in a later model sports car and call it a day. Trying to make a manual drive faster without all of the other drive train upgrades will get you little to nothing at all. Spend the money on seat time and an instructor.

At some point the BMW DCT swap will be a real thing and that will the biggest time saver on our outdated manual transmission setup.

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///maestro · 12-22-2020, 03:29 PM

sooooo how much was this ABS system?

Wigjiggy · 12-22-2020, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ///maestro

sooooo how much was this ABS system?

$3,100 plus install. Jury is still out on value.

Elmo370z · 01-16-2021, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

LMAO, you got have skills to take advantage of the technology. My fellow Miata racer has broken time trial records which he did the weekend before last in his Miata that has no power steering or abs. My Miata has no abs and we will be deleting the power steering before our next event on December 8th.

The bottom line is if you want modern tech that will help you be faster and overcome many of your driving faults, by an auto in a later model sports car and call it a day. Trying to make a manual drive faster without all of the other drive train upgrades will get you little to nothing at all. Spend the money on seat time and an instructor.

At some point the BMW DCT swap will be a real thing and that will the biggest time saver on our outdated manual transmission setup.

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You’re right. Seat time is the most important mod. I’ll take electronics all day. I don’t have the budget to repair the track and my car at the same time. I’ll live with my faults and slowly try to over come them
With seat time. If I’m able to drive a manual transmission just as fast as Dct competitors then when And If I ever decide to make that switch I’ll be quick.

Plus I know my place in the car world. I can’t compete in the same class as these track mod and unlimited teams. I’m building car around the rules I can afford to be competitive in.
Biggest thing for any driver is to get comfortable driving on the limits. With or without electronics.

Elmo370z · 01-16-2021, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wigjiggy

$3,100 plus install. Jury is still out on value.

It will take time to work out all the kinks. You’re doing something very few have done, so can’t expect it to be perfect the first time out.

12-22-2020, 03:29 PM	#27 (permalink)
///maestro Track Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 530 Drives: 11' 370z\|09' BMW M3 Rep Power: 11	sooooo how much was this ABS system? __________________ Gallo24 swapped 370z Instagram: @z34_motorsport

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