Base Brakes Track Day

Jmatchley86 · 02-18-2020, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by alanyluan

Hi everyone, new member here looking to get some insight!

I have a 2014 base 370z I plan on doing a couple track days with this upcoming summer. I've read up on some of the required mods and plan on doing coilovers, FUCA, square wheel/tire (RE71-R), and oil cooler. However, regarding brakes, I plan on eventually going to BBK route but not planned for it this year, hoping the OEM base setup will last me. I'm switching to Yellowstuff and RBF 600, but still wondering about brake temps/fade (especially with the grippier tire). I'm considering doing the Stillen brake duct to help bring down temps but I'm wondering whether this will be effective given I have the OEM blank rotors (not slotted or drilled). I'd appreciate any input!

Thanks!

Not a huge fan of EBC yellow for track use. I use them for daily driving and they get a little warm for me on track. I'm using Gloc pads (12 front and 8 rear) and love em. I also have the stillen cooling kit for the rotors. my .02 on it

alanyluan · 02-20-2020, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmatchley86

Not a huge fan of EBC yellow for track use. I use them for daily driving and they get a little warm for me on track. I'm using Gloc pads (12 front and 8 rear) and love em. I also have the stillen cooling kit for the rotors. my .02 on it

Thanks, I don't anticipate Yellow stuff to last me too long. Curious though, are you on base or sport brakes?

One of my buddies swears by his StopTech Trophy brakes... been eying that kit.

Jmatchley86 · 02-20-2020, 09:03 PM

sport rotors worked well at first but i eventually had to add the stillen duct kit to help with the heat. I'm sure a nice 2 piece would help even more but the price holds me back.

Elmo370z · 03-18-2020, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmatchley86

sport rotors worked well at first but i eventually had to add the stillen duct kit to help with the heat. I'm sure a nice 2 piece would help even more but the price holds me back.

Spend the money

JARblue · 03-18-2020, 11:55 AM

Don't bother with the Z1 for heavy track use. They are too lightweight. The unsprung weight loss is nice, but the lack of mass is a significant obstacle to heat dissipation.

The Racing Brake 2 piece are the best option but $$$. DBA next best option and good value.

Mick_12Nismo · 03-18-2020, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Don't bother with the Z1 for heavy track use. They are too lightweight. The unsprung weight loss is nice, but the lack of mass is a significant obstacle to heat dissipation.

The Racing Brake 2 piece are the best option but $$$. DBA next best option and good value.

Gotta ask JAR - DBA?

SS_Firehawk · 03-18-2020, 03:42 PM

As others have said, I ran EBC yellows on my first track day and they got soft on me after as couple laps. Elmo and I have been running WinMax W5's and they've been pretty solid. Being a Japanese pad, the initial bite isn't too aggressive, but maintains it's clamping force under abuse. I haven't experienced ice mode using them on 200TW tires. I also agree that Z1's mfront rotors may have trimmed too much weight off and reaches higher peak temps than other two piece rotors. That could be the primary source of the cracking. I opted to purchase the DBA two piece and hope to try them soon. If track days can stop being canceled...

JARblue · 03-18-2020, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick_12Nismo

Gotta ask JAR - DBA?

I actually picked up a used set of 2 piece Z1 rotors locally a while back. They are pretty beat up from track use, but the price was right; figured I'd replace the rings if necessary. I haven't even driven on them, but I'm already planning to replace everything. I will probably bite the bullet and buy the RB rotors. I'm in too deep to seriously consider the DBAs at this point.

JARblue · 03-18-2020, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick_12Nismo

Gotta ask JAR - DBA?

It just occurred to me that you might be asking what is DBA. Just another brand. They make a very nice 2-pc rotor: DBA 5000 series T3 (fronts only - no rear 2-pc).

03-18-2020, 11:55 AM	#35 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Don't bother with the Z1 for heavy track use. They are too lightweight. The unsprung weight loss is nice, but the lack of mass is a significant obstacle to heat dissipation. The Racing Brake 2 piece are the best option but $$$. DBA next best option and good value. SS_Firehawk and Rusty like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

03-18-2020, 03:42 PM	#37 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	As others have said, I ran EBC yellows on my first track day and they got soft on me after as couple laps. Elmo and I have been running WinMax W5's and they've been pretty solid. Being a Japanese pad, the initial bite isn't too aggressive, but maintains it's clamping force under abuse. I haven't experienced ice mode using them on 200TW tires. I also agree that Z1's mfront rotors may have trimmed too much weight off and reaches higher peak temps than other two piece rotors. That could be the primary source of the cracking. I opted to purchase the DBA two piece and hope to try them soon. If track days can stop being canceled... __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

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Jmatchley86 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 159 Drives: 2011 370z 6MT Rep Power: 8	sport rotors worked well at first but i eventually had to add the stillen duct kit to help with the heat. I'm sure a nice 2 piece would help even more but the price holds me back.