Track Day Chat

madwi · 06-06-2019, 07:52 AM

I believe that is Gingerman.

JARblue · 06-06-2019, 08:27 AM

Very nice

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Originally Posted by ///maestro

Weird. Not sure why it's not working. Added a link in my previous post.

When using the [YOUTUBE] tag, leave off the youtube url. You just need the last part: the video number after the v= part. If you quote Rusty's post, you can see how he did it with only "5Uc9oeNDXtM" inside the tag.

osbornsm · 06-06-2019, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi

I believe that is Gingerman.

Correct, gridlife was just there... WAY too many people for a track day. EEK!

PharmDZ · 06-06-2019, 10:11 AM

I just used my Nexen SUR4G setup on track for the first time and I was very impressed. 87 degree day, 25 min sessions, didn't grease up. I've run NT01, R888 and R888R, and RE71R before as well. The Nexens were cheap but gripped very well. The one thing I noticed is they allow for more slip than I'm used to but break away very gradually and it's SUPER easy to control which gave me a hell of a lot more confidence. Ran them for autocross as well and had one of my best days in years. I still like/prefer my R888R for ultimate grip on track, but as for a MUCH cheaper alternative without sacrificing all that much for grip, I'm sold.

Jmatchley86 · 06-06-2019, 10:53 AM

I'm thinking of doing SUR4 next. Had TNiA last tuesday and i'm really tired of being on the cheaper end of summer sports. and for around the $750 mark they seem to be a good bet.

Do you daily those tires at all?

PharmDZ · 06-07-2019, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmatchley86

I'm thinking of doing SUR4 next. Had TNiA last tuesday and i'm really tired of being on the cheaper end of summer sports. and for around the $750 mark they seem to be a good bet.

Do you daily those tires at all?

I no longer daily my Z, but they seem like they'd handle rain well and drive just fine every day.

bpchaos · 06-07-2019, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ///maestro

also - need some suggestions.

I'm stuck between two sets of tires. NEXEN SUR4G 275/40/18 and Federal RS-RR 265/40/18

both are about the same price. The nexens aren't offered in 275. I'm currently running 275 and contemplating bumping down to 265. I've got a buddy who swears by his nexen tires. Anyone try the Federals?

I've run the Federal RS-RR in that size. They run wide for a 265.

My experience is that they are:

1. Loud. They sound like a mudder, with a frequency that isn't easily tuned out with more noise.

2. They hook well almost immediately. Your out lap can be your warm-up lap, and they're ready for times the next lap. I'd say they are comparable to a Hankook RS4+ in terms of grip.

3. They are pretty uncommunicative. They grip well but they're a bit sloppy and don't squeal at the limit. Either that, or they've deafened you so you can't hear it. The extremely stiff sidewall means you can get quite good turn-in and responsiveness, but again, it's sloppy and you're guessing at your slip angles.

4. Longevity and road manners are okay. I would say pretty typical of a "200" treadwear tire, and I drove them from Los Angeles to Thunderhill during the winter so it's... bearable.

5. They are scary in the wet. The tread is pretty much entirely useless, BUT FLAMES YO.

Hotrodz · 06-07-2019, 07:45 PM

Since we have beat tires to death and sure that horse won't stay dead, I have another topic for discussion. We were having a down load session and a statement was made that most fast times come in the first couple of sessions in the morning when the weather is best, not to hot and the driver is fresh. I generally would agree but my experience this year has not been so. I have run my fastest laps in the next to the last and mostly the last session of the day.

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Rusty · 06-07-2019, 11:56 PM

My best times come in the middle sessions. First session, I getting up to speed and feeling everything out. Middle sessions, I feel great, comfortable, and focus. This is where everything for me starts to slow down. Last session. This is where I start to screw around. Seeing how far I can hang the rear out, and trying to get that great drive out of the corner. I've looped a time or two doing this.

Trying slightly different lines.

Elmo370z · 06-08-2019, 02:08 AM

I’m
All in from
The get go

Hotrodz · 06-08-2019, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Since we have beat tires to death and sure that horse won't stay dead, I have another topic for discussion. We were having a down load session and a statement was made that most fast times come in the first couple of sessions in the morning when the weather is best, not to hot and the driver is fresh. I generally would agree but my experience this year has not been so. I have run my fastest laps in the next to the last and mostly the last session of the day.

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For me I tell myself on the last session to just 85 to 90% and slow down bring the car home in on piece and just hit all you marks. I think it just what experience but it happens later for me. Everything slows down including me and I go faster, sometimes a couple of seconds faster. I got to find away to get into the zone sooner.

Rusty · 06-08-2019, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

For me I tell myself on the last session to just 85 to 90% and slow down bring the car home in on piece and just hit all you marks. I think it just what experience but it happens later for me. Everything slows down including me and I go faster, sometimes a couple of seconds faster. I got to find away to get into the zone sooner.

When you get into that zone where is seems like things slow down. You know you are cooking.

Hotrodz · 06-08-2019, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

When you get into that zone where is seems like things slow down. You know you are cooking.

Exactly, it all about vision for me. It seems my eyes just go where they need to and my steering and baking inputs follow.

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Spooler · 06-08-2019, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

I got to find away to get into the zone sooner.

That is the quest for everyone. It comes with more seat time I guess. On the dragon I am slow on the way down. Just waking up I guess. On the way back, I am usually cooking with grease. I have to make myself slow down a little so I don't get too carried away.

Hotrodz · 06-09-2019, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

That is the quest for everyone. It comes with more seat time I guess. On the dragon I am slow on the way down. Just waking up I guess. On the way back, I am usually cooking with grease. I have to make myself slow down a little so I don't get too carried away.

Seat and track time coupled with track familiarity is always the deal! Getting into the right mental state for me is like I said vision and relaxation. If I can rid myself of tension I am able to see and focus. It is the the same thing with hitting a baseball or a golf ball. I was an excellent curve ball hitter because I could see the dot the seams would make on the rotation of a curve ball and being relaxed help me with making adjustment to wait and hit it.

Downhill runs are always scarier than uphill runs because of simple physics and car dynamics. There is a reason that closed road time trial are called "Hill Climbs" because going uphill is significantly safer and and faster. That is if you stay on the asphalt!

06-06-2019, 10:11 AM	#49 (permalink)
PharmDZ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 997 Drives: 11 Nissan 370Z BS M6 Rep Power: 14	I just used my Nexen SUR4G setup on track for the first time and I was very impressed. 87 degree day, 25 min sessions, didn't grease up. I've run NT01, R888 and R888R, and RE71R before as well. The Nexens were cheap but gripped very well. The one thing I noticed is they allow for more slip than I'm used to but break away very gradually and it's SUPER easy to control which gave me a hell of a lot more confidence. Ran them for autocross as well and had one of my best days in years. I still like/prefer my R888R for ultimate grip on track, but as for a MUCH cheaper alternative without sacrificing all that much for grip, I'm sold. Eagle, DarkJak, Rusty and 2 others like this.

06-06-2019, 10:53 AM	#50 (permalink)
Jmatchley86 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 159 Drives: 2011 370z 6MT Rep Power: 8	I'm thinking of doing SUR4 next. Had TNiA last tuesday and i'm really tired of being on the cheaper end of summer sports. and for around the $750 mark they seem to be a good bet. Do you daily those tires at all? Eagle likes this.

06-07-2019, 07:45 PM	#53 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Since we have beat tires to death and sure that horse won't stay dead, I have another topic for discussion. We were having a down load session and a statement was made that most fast times come in the first couple of sessions in the morning when the weather is best, not to hot and the driver is fresh. I generally would agree but my experience this year has not been so. I have run my fastest laps in the next to the last and mostly the last session of the day. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,190 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	My best times come in the middle sessions. First session, I getting up to speed and feeling everything out. Middle sessions, I feel great, comfortable, and focus. This is where everything for me starts to slow down. Last session. This is where I start to screw around. Seeing how far I can hang the rear out, and trying to get that great drive out of the corner. I've looped a time or two doing this. Trying slightly different lines. Hotrodz, Spooler and jchammond like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

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madwi A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: West Michigan Posts: 31,410 Drives: Granma red Z Rep Power: 2684429	I believe that is Gingerman.

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