Criticise my driving and help me make the car faster

Maestro666 · 04-25-2019, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

OP is convinced that he needs mods to go faster. Rather than learning the basics.

No I'm trying to use mods to compensate for my shitty driving. At least until my skills can catch up.

BettyZ · 04-25-2019, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Maestro666

No I'm trying to use mods to compensate for my shitty driving. At least until my skills can catch up.

Do you start a teenager off in a Ferrari or a beater Civic?

Do you start a 7th grader off on Fermat's Last Theorem or algebra?

Do you build the walls of a house first, or the foundation?

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Rusty · 04-25-2019, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Maestro666

No I'm trying to use mods to compensate for my shitty driving. At least until my skills can catch up.

Mods won't compensate for chitting driving. They will get you in trouble faster.

AlWakRa · 04-26-2019, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Mods won't compensate for chitting driving. They will get you in trouble faster.

, totally.

You wouldn't be able to catch something like this

https://youtu.be/S6LG_2CXXK8?t=150

JARblue · 04-26-2019, 07:58 AM

OP, don't listen to these fools. You be you. You'll learn eventually. Or not

2011 Nismo#91 · 04-26-2019, 12:15 PM

1. Thumbs up not inside the wheel.
2. Turn in later
3. Find a bigger track, that's more like autocross.

BettyZ · 04-26-2019, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91

1. Thumbs up not inside the wheel.
2. Turn in later
3. Find a bigger track, that's more like autocross.

He's in Qatar. That track is ab the size of the country...

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JARblue · 04-26-2019, 05:52 PM

OP is in Australia

Rusty · 04-26-2019, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

OP is in Australia

Think the track is a go kart track.

Eagle · 05-02-2019, 05:32 PM

Turn 1: you can enter with more speed, stay tighter and closer to the wall on the left.
Turn 2: You can late apex this and can probably negotiate the turn without braking, just a lift of the throttle will probably do
Turn 3: Track out to the curbing and widen the angle entering into 4
Turn 4: looks ok
Turn 5: Stay closer to the wall on the right, use the curbs on the left
Turn 6: Track out wider, look at where all the skid marks are....your car should be there
Turn 7: You can sacrifice this apex in exchange for a straighter line into turn 8, providing yourself with a mini straight away
Turn 8: Track out wider, again look at where the tire marks are
Turn 9: You are turning in way too early and staying too tight, this is killing your minimum speed through here and your line for the next turn
Turn 10: Track out to the wall on the left, brake late and turn in sharply towards the apex with the tires standing up on the right

The next few turns are a loop, so just review 6 through 9.

In general you're not using enough of the track and you're missing some apexes while hitting others that arent as important.

Also this course is weird since you drive a section of it twice and it's difficult to know where the finish line is. Is it the tire barrier chicane at the end?

Just my $.02, hope that helps

Eagle · 05-02-2019, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Maestro666

Hi everyone,

I have just completed my first track day and the bug is well and truly dug in. This event had been planned on my calendar for quite some time and I had always intended to track the car.

My best lap time was a 65.** with a fuel starve event (which I mistakenly thought was the car hitting the limiter, and shifted up). I am told the car will do a 60 flat (stock) with an experienced driver, which I am not.

Here is a helmet shot of my 65sec.

https://onedrive.live.com/download?c...HgotuT6cIh3UnU

Yes my driving is ****, I'm aware.

My short term goal (by year end) is to break 60sec, which shouldn't be hard, as I don't intend to stay stock.

I was told by others at the event that the car will definitely not get anywhere near 55sec so THE GAUNTLET HAS BEEN THROWN DOWN.

I have an Ark Grip cat-back and I am running Kumho PS91's in stock size on stock rims. Everything else is a stock 2014 sport 7AT. My brakes were also near the end of their lives, which probably negated any benefit from the exhaust.

The next event is in August. It's a sprint event (if you can't tell from the video), so I'm not concerned with engine heat (30 mins between sprints) or brake fade. I stripped the hatch before this event and next event I intend to pull the passenger seat as well.

Parts that will be arriving soon.

* High Flow Cats
* Stoptech rotors and sport pads

I am thinking about replacing the intakes and getting re-tuned on E85 (easily available here), but I'm unsure if just throwing more horses at the problem will get the results I want.

There is no opportunity for driver training where I live so I will need to learn on the track, at the event.

I will run with semi-slicks at the next event but I'm still unsure on what wheels\sizes. There appears to be no restrictions on what I can do to the car apart from adding boost (which changes my class) or running full slicks.

I'm happy pulling stuff out of the car for the event if it's worth the time but it needs to be put back in.

Help me make the Z go faster!!

Also a couple things, this is not a fast course...brakes arent going to help you much here, neither will semi-slicks.

Both those things require speed and heat, neither of which you'll be able to achieve especially if you're not running laps on this course back to back.

I'd recommend a set of square 18 inch wheels, the OEM stagger isnt doing you any favors on a tight course like this. The car has a tendency to understeer with that setup which seemed apparent from your video.

Lastly, your current tire choice is probably ok. I tried Kumho Ecsta's before and didnt like em, super soft/squishy sidewalls and poor feedback. That said it's better than going to semi-slicks or anything remotely close to an r-compound.

Stick with street tires, Federal 595 RSRR's are a good beginner tire. For a competitive autocross like setup Bridgestone RE71R, Nexen SUR4G, Yokohama Advan A052 and BF Goodrich Gforce Rival are all excellent choices.

Like the others have said, before you buy any of this stuff, just focus on the fundamentals

04-26-2019, 07:58 AM	#35 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	OP, don't listen to these fools. You be you. You'll learn eventually. Or not AlWakRa, Hotrodz, Spooler and 2 others like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

04-26-2019, 12:15 PM	#36 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,400 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40569	1. Thumbs up not inside the wheel. 2. Turn in later 3. Find a bigger track, that's more like autocross. Rusty, Hotrodz and Memphis370Z like this.

04-26-2019, 05:52 PM	#38 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	OP is in Australia __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

05-02-2019, 05:32 PM	#40 (permalink)
Eagle Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: South Orange County, CA Posts: 885 Drives: 2011 370z Red 6MT Rep Power: 10656	Turn 1: you can enter with more speed, stay tighter and closer to the wall on the left. Turn 2: You can late apex this and can probably negotiate the turn without braking, just a lift of the throttle will probably do Turn 3: Track out to the curbing and widen the angle entering into 4 Turn 4: looks ok Turn 5: Stay closer to the wall on the right, use the curbs on the left Turn 6: Track out wider, look at where all the skid marks are....your car should be there Turn 7: You can sacrifice this apex in exchange for a straighter line into turn 8, providing yourself with a mini straight away Turn 8: Track out wider, again look at where the tire marks are Turn 9: You are turning in way too early and staying too tight, this is killing your minimum speed through here and your line for the next turn Turn 10: Track out to the wall on the left, brake late and turn in sharply towards the apex with the tires standing up on the right The next few turns are a loop, so just review 6 through 9. In general you're not using enough of the track and you're missing some apexes while hitting others that arent as important. Also this course is weird since you drive a section of it twice and it's difficult to know where the finish line is. Is it the tire barrier chicane at the end? Just my $.02, hope that helps AlWakRa, danegrey, Rusty and 3 others like this. __________________ nismo\| EVO-R High Wing \| *Stillen* Gen 3 CAI \| SEIBON TS Hood \| Z1 34 Row Oil Cooler \| VMR 810 Wheels \| Endless MX72 Pads \|*Sabelt* GT-140 Seat \|Fly1Motorsports RS1 Fenders \| Hotchkis Front Sway Bar \| Berk HFC \| Last edited by Eagle; 05-02-2019 at 08:34 PM.

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